Mark Breen
marklbreen at gmail.com
Wed Jan 20 06:14:55 CST 2010
Hello Gustav, Another aspect of DeltaCopy I liked was the integration with the Scheduler, I think it is possible to use switches with SyncToy but I did not get the working, did you? thanks Mark 2010/1/16 Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> > Hi Mark > > Yes, SyncToy is not fast but it seems very reliable. > The folder file it creates is to uniqely identify each folder to allow you > to rename them without fooling SyncToy. Most other tools - including rsync I > guess - will either be fooled or start copying any file in these folders as > new files. > > /gustav > > >>> marklbreen at gmail.com 16-01-2010 20:32 >>> > Hello Gustav, > > I am reading your email and smiling. > > I also used synctoy, and as usual with MS, the GUI is nicer, friendly and > appears easier to use. However, as you say, it does not offer the email > notification that DeltaCopy uses. A much bigger PITA however, is that > SyncToy seems to create a file in every folder that it backs up, this > really > bugs me, expecially because it is slow anyway, no faster than DeltaCopy > without the extra clutter. Again, this comparison is typical of MS, I > guess. > > I never new about the hidden / system files, thanks for letting me know > about that. > > I am sorry, I have no suggestions how to get 1.7 set up. If I get a chance > to play with it on a VM, I will report back. > > Good luck with it, > > Mark > > > > 2010/1/16 Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> > > > Hi Mark > > > > I use some remote (network) drives to be backed up. But network drive > > letters in Windows are not seem by Cygwin. Thus, these must be mounted > the > > Linux way. This could be specified in version 1.5 with some fancy > Registry > > entries, but this has changed completely as described in version 1.7. > > It is probably very simple to set up - if you just know how. > > > > A way around this is to specify the UNC path in the DC config file, like > > \\192.168.1.200\SomeFolder. You cannot write it directly via the GUI, > > neither will DC let you browse to those locations. > > > > Another limitation I've found is that rsync won't copy hidden and system > > files. That you could live with (if you are not using MS OneNote) but > when > > such files are met, rsync raises an error and your session is reported as > in > > error and will be repeated if you have set up DC to try multiple times in > > case of error. > > > > Now, SyncToy could be used instead for remote to local copy, but it > doesn't > > support notifications - thus no e-mail reporting about the status of the > > backup. > > Why can one util do it all? > > > > /gustav > > > > > > >>> marklbreen at gmail.com 16-01-2010 13:08 >>> > > Hello Gustav, > > > > First of all thank you for your feedback on Cygwin 1.7, I did read about > it > > and remarked to myself about the long file names being a silly > limitation > > in DeltaCopy. > > > > As I do not see any international characters here, I did not bother with > > Cygwin 1.7, so I have no experience of it. > > > > >But how do you mount drives with Cygwin 1.7? > > What I did not understand from your email was what you are trying to do. > > Are you using DeltaCopy Server and DeltaCopy Client? Or are you not > using > > the DeltaCopy UI at all? > > > > > > When I use DeltaCopy Server, I configure a "server", which acts like a > Share > > really. > > > > One last thing, I noticed a few days ago a slight bug in the Client > software > > in that when I browse for the servers, it was not picking up the Server > name > > correctly, IOW, I have a Server named "Pics from the Canon", but the > client > > could only see "Pics", yet that did not work, but when I pasted in the > > Server name of "Pics from the Canon" it all seemed OK. > > > > Let me know if I can help more, > > > > thanks > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > 2010/1/15 Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> > > > > > Hi all (Linux gurus included!) > > > > > > DeltaCopy and Cyqwin 1.7: Long directory paths and file names with > > > international characters! > > > > > > Copy these file from the Cygwin 1.7 distribution (folder bin) to the > > > DeltaCopy folder: > > > > > > chmod.exe > > > cygcrypto-0.9.8.dll > > > cyggcc_s-1.dll > > > cygiconv-2.dll > > > cygintl-8.dll > > > cygpopt-0.dll > > > cygwin1.dll > > > cygz.dll > > > rsync.exe > > > ssh.exe > > > > > > and DeltaCopy will support long directory paths and file names with > > > international characters. > > > > > > But how do you mount drives with Cygwin 1.7? > > > Now you specify mounts in the file fstab in folder etc (_not_ in the > > > Registry as previously). > > > It is explained here in detail: > > > > > > http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using.html#mount-table > > > > > > but I can't get it to work. I've created a the folder etc as a > subfolder to > > > the DeltaCopy folder. > > > I've also tested with the windows\system32\drivers\etc folder but > negative. > > > > > > The setting used is like this where BackupOne is the share name of a > shared > > > folder on the remote machine: > > > > > > //192.168.10.210/BackupOne /backupshare smbfs binary,noacl 0 0 > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > /gustav > > > > > > > > > >>> marklbreen at gmail.com 14-01-2010 10:53 >>> > > > Hello Steve, > > > > > > Sorry, I did not make one point clear. > > > > > > machineB, as I called it can be any machine capable of storing a > terabyte > > > drive, or better again, two 1 TB drives in Raid 10 configuration. > > > > > > so 50 dollars for a cheap raid 10 card > > > 200 dollars for 2 x 1TB drives > > > > > > install them in any old PC, does not have to be server even, and > vollia, > > > you have hot backups using DeltaCopy (Check it out it is really good). > > > > > > it is cheap, but gives you full hot onsite backups and costs, less than > 300 > > > usd. > > > > > > If you install hamachi and put another PC off site somewhere, you can > keep > > > the 2nd set of hot backups off site. > > > > > > A tip: If you do the off site solution, first mirror the machines on > site, > > > then your off site sync process will only deal with the differences on > a > > > daily basis. > > > > > > BTW, I agree with all you say about backups and security - black art. > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > 2010/1/13 Steve Erbach <erbachs at gmail.com> > > > > > > > Mark, > > > > > > > > >> I saw there are already a lot of responses to this thread << > > > > > > > > ...but there don't seem to be any clear-cut answers. Backup is as > much a > > > > black art as security, methinks. > > > > > > > > That "hot" backup idea is good. I'll chat with Janet about it. Only > she > > > > will be able to tell whether the boss is willing to spring for a > second HP > > > > server. > > > > > > > > >> Sure I would have to map the printers again, and we might have no > domain > > > > controller for few days, but once everyone has access to machine B, > you are > > > > good to go. << > > > > > > > > That is one of the things that simply astounds me regarding backup > > > > "philosophies": isn't it better all around if the backup system has > got all > > > > of those things ready to go? I mean, with an image backup of the > server to > > > > a drive in a docking station, you don't have to worry about > conflicting > > > > domain controllers or what have you; but all that's needed is for the > backup > > > > drive to be designated as the boot drive on the server and, mirabile > dictu! > > > > The server is back up with ALL the domain controller and email and > printer > > > > definitions, etc. What is so frickin' magical about servers that > that type > > > > of backup can't be done? Sorry, not yelling at you...I simply am > shaking my > > > > head over this simple setup and the apparent impossibility of the > backup > > > > task as stated. > > > > > > > > Thanks for your input, Mark. > > > > > > > > Steve Erbach > > > > Neenah, WI > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >