[dba-Tech] Once and for all time: server backups

Mark Breen marklbreen at gmail.com
Sat Jan 30 06:38:30 CST 2010


I should have included Janets Uranium in that list of backup options also,
sorry Janet :)

Mark


On 30 January 2010 12:37, Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Gustav,
>
> Thank you very much for taking the time to write this up and let us all
> know.
>
> Gbridge looks great, I currently have Hamachi installed in quite a few
> machines now, but I will keep Gbridge in mind for my next remote link, if
> for no other reason, than to try out another tool / set of tools.
>
> Thanks also for the intro to second copy.
>
> I have to install two 1 TB USB disks this week as alternating off site
> backups.  As the data is sensitive, I am in the process of creating 1 TG
> encrypted volumes - it takes 16 hours each.
>
> I then have to figure out the best / simplest way to mirror one folder on
> the customers Win2K3 server machine.
>
> Options are
>
> DeltaCopy
> SyncToy
> SecondCopy
> GBridge (maybe but I do not need the remote facilities)
> MS Windows Backup
>
> No MS Exchange and no MS SQL Serer
>
> The data I am backing up is approx 20 GB, so I have the storage options or
> preparing - like the olden days with tapes - a daily, Friday 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,
>  and Monthly and Annual backup sets.  This would give step back
> possibilities.
>
> It is low budget - I want to complete 100% the task in one day including
> showing the customer how it all works and that it is easy to understand and
> use.
>
> Any thoughts anyone?
>
> thanks
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> On 29 January 2010 16:54, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Sadly, we had to give up on DeltaCopy and rsync. This is just not a
>> combo for Windows machines with a WAN in between - to many protocol sync
>> errors, troubles with security settings on folders, and an installation
>> and configuration task that takes a top notch techie _days_ for tweaking
>> and testing. It just doesn't pay off.
>>
>> HOWever, we found a small gem, Gbridge:
>>
>>  http://www.gbridge.com/
>>
>> This is a unique combo of VPN connection with authentication via your
>> Google account, a backup program, a folder sync, a secure web interface
>> to your file store, remote control (with a little help from VNC), and
>> extensive logging - at zero cost. The only feature missing is some
>> method to e-mail a summarized report of the happenings.
>>
>> You can connect any count of machines both from your intranet and
>> remote invited machines, you could even build an extranet with this tiny
>> tool.
>>
>> This we use for backing up to a remote location (my home).
>> In addition we backup to a local machine using Second Copy:
>>
>>  http://www.centered.com/
>>
>> This is not free but cheap and features archiving of previous versions
>> of files when updated at the main server.
>> Finally the main server is backed via MySecureBackup to "the cloud" at
>> Amazon.
>> Everything is run an controlled from a dedicated backup station
>> (actually an old laptop with an external drive).
>>
>> So now we have a setup for backing up the main file server:
>>
>> 1. Server to local backup station via Second Copy
>> 2. Backup station to remote location via Gbridge
>> 3. Server to the cloud via MySecureBackup
>>
>> This forms a 2½ way backup setup (2. will fail if 1. fails) which is
>> satisfactory as a 2 way system is minimum in case one system should
>> fail.
>> If you change the main server (NetWare at the moment) to a Windows
>> Server, Gbridge could run on that and you had a 3 way setup.
>> Of course, the backup station represents a single point of possible
>> failure but for operation only, not for storage. If that is a concern,
>> the operations of this machine could be split onto two machines or even
>> three.
>> Further, with a Windows Server you could activate its default shadow
>> copying backup for a fourth backup system suited for a system recovery
>> where the above backup setup is for file backup only.
>>
>> /gustav
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