Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Sat Jan 30 14:55:17 CST 2010
Hi Mark: In the scenario it would work perfectly. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:03 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Once and for all time: server backups Hello Jim, If I understand you right you said the following 1) MS One Care is a project I have to purchase 2) MS One Care is suitable client to local backup files to usb drives Is that right? I guess that my real question is "what software should I use to schedule backup of data to local usb drives on W2K3 Small Business Edition" thanks Mark On 30 January 2010 16:37, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: > It is very interesting listening to your remote and backup solutions. > > I use Hamachi, in conjunction with Windows server admin terminal and remote > product (Remote Desktop), on all my clients. Regardless of how their DNS > changes through their own system or ISP or web site issues (The clients or > myself have a few web sites or parts of sites supported off the local > servers) there is always a way in... I have never ran across a more > reliable > connection method. > > There is also LogMeIn Pro which provides all those connection features > required. A few local support companies use this product with all their > clients. There is also a LogMeIn Backup/Sync application which integrates > with their remote product. The prices for a single user are $70 and $40 > CAN, > a year, respectively. LogMeIn is the owner of Hamachi (bought Hamachi out a > few years ago) and therefore uses Hamachi's VPN, security and dedicated > addresses. > > I was trying to use Microsoft's OneCare backup system. Unfortunately, it is > as 'dumb as a box of rocks' went it comes to reconnecting to a remote > server. As soon as the remote station or server has to be rebooted OnCare > can no longer connect again... you could enter the login credentials, as > presented, as many times as you want, no joy. Even with the remote server > clearly connected via file explorer... exasperating to say the least. The > product is not a total right-off as by going in the products options and > resetting backup path, it will then allow it to reconnect. OneCare could be > a good product if this issue was resolved as it is only 40 for 3 stations. > > That is my take on the current status on small integrated remote and backup > systems. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 4:38 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Once and for all time: server backups > > Hello Gustav, > > Thank you very much for taking the time to write this up and let us all > know. > > Gbridge looks great, I currently have Hamachi installed in quite a few > machines now, but I will keep Gbridge in mind for my next remote link, if > for no other reason, than to try out another tool / set of tools. > > Thanks also for the intro to second copy. > > I have to install two 1 TB USB disks this week as alternating off site > backups. As the data is sensitive, I am in the process of creating 1 TG > encrypted volumes - it takes 16 hours each. > > I then have to figure out the best / simplest way to mirror one folder on > the customers Win2K3 server machine. > > Options are > > DeltaCopy > SyncToy > SecondCopy > GBridge (maybe but I do not need the remote facilities) > MS Windows Backup > > No MS Exchange and no MS SQL Serer > > The data I am backing up is approx 20 GB, so I have the storage options or > preparing - like the olden days with tapes - a daily, Friday 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, > and Monthly and Annual backup sets. This would give step back > possibilities. > > It is low budget - I want to complete 100% the task in one day including > showing the customer how it all works and that it is easy to understand and > use. > > Any thoughts anyone? > > thanks > > Mark > > > > > On 29 January 2010 16:54, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > Sadly, we had to give up on DeltaCopy and rsync. This is just not a > > combo for Windows machines with a WAN in between - to many protocol sync > > errors, troubles with security settings on folders, and an installation > > and configuration task that takes a top notch techie _days_ for tweaking > > and testing. It just doesn't pay off. > > > > HOWever, we found a small gem, Gbridge: > > > > http://www.gbridge.com/ > > > > This is a unique combo of VPN connection with authentication via your > > Google account, a backup program, a folder sync, a secure web interface > > to your file store, remote control (with a little help from VNC), and > > extensive logging - at zero cost. The only feature missing is some > > method to e-mail a summarized report of the happenings. > > > > You can connect any count of machines both from your intranet and > > remote invited machines, you could even build an extranet with this tiny > > tool. > > > > This we use for backing up to a remote location (my home). > > In addition we backup to a local machine using Second Copy: > > > > http://www.centered.com/ > > > > This is not free but cheap and features archiving of previous versions > > of files when updated at the main server. > > Finally the main server is backed via MySecureBackup to "the cloud" at > > Amazon. > > Everything is run an controlled from a dedicated backup station > > (actually an old laptop with an external drive). > > > > So now we have a setup for backing up the main file server: > > > > 1. Server to local backup station via Second Copy > > 2. Backup station to remote location via Gbridge > > 3. Server to the cloud via MySecureBackup > > > > This forms a 2½ way backup setup (2. will fail if 1. fails) which is > > satisfactory as a 2 way system is minimum in case one system should > > fail. > > If you change the main server (NetWare at the moment) to a Windows > > Server, Gbridge could run on that and you had a 3 way setup. > > Of course, the backup station represents a single point of possible > > failure but for operation only, not for storage. If that is a concern, > > the operations of this machine could be split onto two machines or even > > three. > > Further, with a Windows Server you could activate its default shadow > > copying backup for a fourth backup system suited for a system recovery > > where the above backup setup is for file backup only. > > > > /gustav > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com