Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Sun Apr 17 11:44:01 CDT 2011
Hi Tina: Between the gardening and a coffee and a new counter-top for the last bathroom and another coffee and always programming (running late, very late) and yet another coffee and doing an HTML page (with tabs on the top signifying years and tabs of the side signifying months) and we will have to do a grocery and garden run as soon as all the dirt and saw-dust has been washed away. How I love Sundays...clear blue sky and cool...perfect ;-) At the risk of yet digressing again; your place sounds absolutely lovely; a real picture postcard home. I can now see why such a complex router layout. The Router 0 is the key to everything and of course that failed. Of course you have a complete copy of all the specs of all the routers on a handy sheet paper and/or maybe the SSID specs are on a label attached to bottom of each router just incase anything got lost as the chance of remembering all your codes and passwords is 1000:1, unless you have a photographic memory or have a standard sequence. If you do not, you will most likely have to reset the logins, wifi wise on all the routers and start from scratch. (I hate to be the bearer of bad news.) Actually that is the good news as then ever computer that accesses the WiFis will have to have their setting changed as well. All I can say at this point is to set up Router0 using the setting from the other routers as a base template and then set the appropriate differences as outlined in the last post...hope that post was easy to understand. Right now I am having a problem with my router as it a Gigabit; Dlink DDR. Our local ISP uses a method of starting a connection in burst mode and then slowing down. My router steps up to the burst mode but does not like to resume at a slower speed. In addition we have discovered only one (there are probably many) IP addresses that the Router will block for absolutely no reason. We actually had the senior tech specialist from Dlink logon and test...and yes, it is the case and there is no resolution. (We are using an $8 wireless router set to only respond to one IP address and linked around the main router and into the switch...and it did take a while to resolve the resultant hardware chatter.) If there is any more help I can give you just send another post. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 4:19 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] New router network puzzle Hi Jim, Thanks for the response. I completely understand the "crazy" business. I, too, have been dealing with colliding deadlines. I'll start with the layout. My home is an ancestral home, a rambling house that started out small and got built onto by my grandfather. It is now L shaped, with the old part of the house in the short side of the L and the new part in the long side. The long side of the L is about 50' long, two stories tall, and made of concrete blocks. The short side is about 30' long, one story tall with an attic, mostly wood frame, except for where the old porch got turned into an extra room - that part is concrete block construction. There is also an apartment above the garage (also concrete block construction). My grandfather did not want anything he built to ever fall down! :-) That is about 75' away from the far end of the long side of the L. The property is heavily wooded. The antenna is on a tower at the far end of the long side of the L The POE is inside the window of the bedroom nearest the tower. My office is in the concrete block room at the far end of the short side of the L, with lots of walls for the signal to go through. That is why there is a cabled router in my office, which acts as just a wireless access point for the computers in my office. There is a cabled router in the garage apartment, which also acts as just a wireless access point for the computers up there. So, the router 0, connected to the POE, acts as a hub. Routers 1 and 2 are connected by cable to router 0 because of the distances and obstacles involved, and they both act as wireless access points for their respective areas. In some places on the property, a wireless laptop computer can reach all three routers, but in most places, only one of the routers offers a strong enough signal. I have set up the new router 0 so that it has the correct gateway IP address, and now both routers 1 and 2 recognize that gateway and provide internet access to the computers in their area. However, I still have the matter of two SSID names. Maybe it doesn't matter, but I'd like to have everybody on the same network with the same name. And at least I'd like to understand what it takes to replace one piece of equipment with another and have the new equipment join the existing network. Thanks again for taking the time to look at my situation. I really appreciate your help. T Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Tina: > > Sorry for not getting back to you sooner but it has been crazy here...a > client network crash, coding is well behind and the grass just keeps growing > and the gardens are not finished yet... |-P > > It seems like a fairly complex configuration. Was router 0 connected to a > PoE switch? Are all the routers Broadband? > > It does seem that your little network is maybe a little rich on routers. At > quick glance I can not see why Router 0 is needed. A switch (or hubs) should > be more the adequate. As you have a number of Routers all except one must > have the DNS turned off; each will have a different IP address, within a > single range (192.168.111.1, 192.168.111.2 etc.), but the same subnet mask > and can not conflict with any connecting computers, which are also in the > same IP range. > > This is all the basics... > > To eliminate all conflict issues, your new router 0 will have to be setup by > itself, directly connected to a PC and directly to the internet so the base > configuration can be set as any active/connected component in the network > could conflict until the new router's setting are complete. > > When you finally get the configurations set, save a print page of the > setting and save those setting to computer/thumb drive or DVD. It will make > it a quicker to rebuild the router is any thing goes wrong within the > warranty period. > > A lot of the above is just a guess as I am having a bit of a problem > understanding your network but those are the basics and if there is any > other questions feel free to ask. > > HTH > Jim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 8:24 PM > To: DBA-Tech > Subject: [dba-Tech] New router network puzzle > > Hi All, > > I have a broadband internet network consisting of the antenna, POE, > router0, cabled router1, cabled router2, two computers wireless > connected to router1, and 3 computers wireless connected to router2. > > Router0 is at the POE, router1 and router2 actually serve as wireless > access points. All was fine until router0 crapped out today. (I'd been > having performance issues for weeks, but thought it was with the ISP.) > All three routers were D-Link DL 514. I bought a new NetGear WNDR3400 > to replace router0. Now, comes the issue. It wants to establish its > own network - which for the nonce I have allowed, because that got me > back online. I want it to join the existing network - using the SSID I > already have established. How do I do that? I tried just changing its > SSID name and feeding it my WEP key. It said that SSID already existed > and refused. How do I coax the new router to join the old network and > take over for the old router that crapped out? > > Thanks, > T > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com