[dba-Tech] gmail & privacy

Gustav is right and you are right. 

The computers have made all our mail just an open postcard and computers
have made our mail easy to read by anyone, for any purpose.

If you want conversations to have any degree of privacy you will have to do
what all major corporations do. For executive messages and secure data
transfers they build a VPN through out the company and all their hard drives
are encrypted. (All banks do this.)

You can use Hamachi from Logmein or OpenVPN (http://openvpn.net/), then
there are numerous drive encryption software packages and online storage
sites. Check some of the reviews given but the likes of Steve Gibson, on his
podcast recommendations.

Welcome to the age of information where privacy for those jacked-in does not
exist and your only real protection is a democratic government.

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 1:56 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] gmail & privacy

On 12/30/2011 2:06 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> Don't forget the old saying, that sending an e-mail is like sending an
open postcard.
> It really is that simple

Not at all that simple: the postman or neighbourhood kids reading my 
postcard (like people nearby hearing a personal conversation on a train) 
is a far cry from a global corporation mining everyone's electronic 
postcards to track their lives. That's Orwell's concept of Big Brother 
implemented by corporations.

> but people seem to forget.
> For example, many - even enterprises - use external services for spam
filtering. What can these services do other than reading your mail and take
a decision wether it is spam or malware or good mail? In this process, all
your mail may be exposed for any one at that service completely out of your
control.
>
> If you wish to e-mail anything in privacy, encrypt the content or move it
to an encrypted attachment.

Sure. The question is whether there's a need for regulation of practices 
like Google's.

PB

-----
>
> /gustav
>
>
>>>> peter.brawley at earthlink.net 29-12-2011 23:02>>>
> On 12/29/2011 3:38 PM, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
>> You put your info through my mail servers, and I can do what I want with
it.   I have given no
>> guarantee of privacy.   If you don't like it, don't use my mail
service.:-)
> Happy New Year to you too! :-)
>
> PB
>
> ----
>> -- Stuart On 29 Dec 2011 at 12:36, Peter Brawley wrote:
>>>>   Once we sign up for GMail or Google Voice, Google does what it calls
>>>>   "content extraction" (to refine its targeted advertising) on all
>>>>   messages  from us/and to us/. That exposes everybody we communicate
>>>>   with on these services.
>>>>
>>>>   In the US, a Fourth Amendment legal action might put a stop to that,
>>>>   though AFAIK none has yet begun. What about other countries?
>>>>
>>>>   PB
>
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