[dba-Tech] Linux and Firefox

Jim Lawrence accessd at shaw.ca
Mon Sep 19 22:13:06 CDT 2011


Exactly...slowly from lack of company support. 

Open Source Standards are great as a company can decide how much support to
give to a certain standard through the tools they provide but if they loose
interest there is always some other company there to continue support.
(Example: the browser market) This is good for developers who can hold their
skill set for 10 to 20 years and slowly evolve along with their chosen
protocol. (There is always steady growth but no erratic turns and twists
that can be punctuated with a sudden and final disappearance.)

Jim
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Peter Brawley
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 5:43 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Linux and Firefox

On 9/19/2011 5:46 PM, Mark Breen wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> Not sure what you mean by
>> MS Access comes to mind. Long live Open Source standards.
> do you mean that Access is slowing dying ?
How do we speed that up?

PB

-----

>
> have I missed an elephant in the room?
>
> thanks
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
> On 19 September 2011 21:22, Jim Lawrence<accessd at shaw.ca>  wrote:
>
>> It appears that both Silverlight (what a waste of money if it was
expected
>> to be a Flash replacement) and Flash, are on their way out. Adobe has
even
>> created a new product called Edge, which will create Flash like browser
>> results but uses HTML5 and CSS3. (Free for download:
>> http://tinyurl.com/6adgd4t as they are looking for early adopters in the
>> developer's community.)
>>
>> You are going to run into these issues for a while as one product is
being
>> phased out and being replaced by another.
>>
>> Android still supports Flash as Google is the proud owner of YouTube but
a
>> replacement technology is in the works as so many Flash experts are also
>> migrating and want to have a solid alternative.
>>
>> There are now, many free Flash website designs, as companies are shedding
>> their stables of Flash inventory and are now using them as bait, to
attract
>> potential clients to their sites. It will probably take 2 to 5 years
before
>> Flash is finally gone.
>>
>> There is a general trend in the developer's community to not embrace a
>> closed standard, as if history is any indication, a person's career can
be
>> jeopardized when a company decides to no longer support one of their
>> products and huge costs are incurred buying into a new closed technology,
>> starting with huge time waste, as well as poorer products, until
sufficient
>> skill-sets have been obtained.
>>
>> MS Access comes to mind. Long live Open Source standards.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 8:56 AM
>> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Linux and Firefox
>>
>> I get some pretty strange messages on my android tablet. One app, IIRC
>> Flash, would not download to my iPad because Apple does not support it.
>> Nice
>> slap in the face Adobe. First inferring that _I_ bought an iPad and
second
>> suggesting that Apple has anything to say about Android.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 8:44 AM
>> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Linux and Firefox
>>
>> Hi Mark:
>>
>> That happens more frequently than you would guess. Many of my sites will
>> not
>> run on IE as the clients are unwilling to pay the extra dollars for the
>> extra coding necessary. It has not been until recently, that IE (IE9),
has
>> supported HTML5 or CSS3. Some web programmer did the reverse and built
the
>> site only for IE.
>>
>> You could try the Linux Chrome browser, Chromium and see if you have
better
>> luck.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 1:28 AM
>> To: Discussion concerning MS SQL Server; Discussion of Hardware and
>> Software
>> issues
>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Linux and Firefox
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Hope you do not mind me changing the subject on this discussion.
>>
>> Francisco mentions below that he uses Firefox on Linux.  Over the
weekend,
>> I
>> tried to book online for Dublin Airport car park using Linux and FF.
>>   However, the site informed me that they do not currently support this
>> phone
>> browser and to try a regular PC.
>>
>> Well I guess I can understand what caused that wrong message, but I was
>> disappointed that I had to go upstairs to my windows machine.
>>
>> To gently tease the kids, I also took a printscreen of their old Windows
>> desktop and set it as the desktop on the  linux installation.  Their
heads
>> were messed up because they could see the Windows icons, but still they
>> were
>> on linux :)
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> On 19 September 2011 00:09, Francisco Tapia<fhtapia at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>>   Another thing you can attempt is to setup a Linux virtual machine
>>> that would prevent hackers from reaching your personal data directly.
>>> I really won't surf the net on Internet explorer (any version). I only
>>> use Firefox with noscript and on a Linux machine helps to obfuscate as
>>> much direct contact as possible...
>>>
>>> Sent from my mobile
>>>
>>>
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