Salakhetdinov Shamil
mcp2004 at mail.ru
Mon Dec 17 06:04:04 CST 2012
Hi Hans -- <<< The original discussion was about a serious leakage flaw in Internet Explorer and Jim asked if it was possible to run other browsers on Windows 8 and this is how we eventually got to this point in our discussion. >>> Yes, so let's have now the subject line changed to stay on new topic of WOA/WintRT "walled garden" approach? <<< I will, however, some times poke fun at those people who had previously criticized Apple's walled garden, but now praise Microsoft when they are doing the exact same thing. >>> Yes! - please notice I didn't criticize Apple's "walled garden" approach, did I? If I did and I'm missing that my past Apple's criticism now please point me on it. <<< You can embed IE's Trident engine into your browser, but you are essentially just putting a wolf in sheep's clothing. At the end of your day, your "browser" is pretty much a stripped down IE but with your own UI layout and features. >>> But you can use MS Trident Engine to just have JavaScript compiled and executed as speedy as IE does use it, can't you? And for the rest - rendering HTML(5)/CSS etc. - you can use DirectX working as close as possible to the "bare metal"? Or JavaScript compilation and execution part of Trident Engine is so closely coupled with HTML(5)/CSS rendering functionality/components that it can't be "decoupled" and used as FireFox for WOA component? Or Trident Engine doesn't allow to "hook" executing within itself JavaScript code modifying HTML/CSS to have third-party HTML rendering engine to implement their own HTML/CSS rendering more effectively than IE does do it? <<< They've spent a lot of time and effort building a browser engine that they believe is better than IE and then they are forced to scrap all that and make do with IE's Trident engine. >>> But WOA is a new hardware platform - does MS have any obligations to keep compatibility of any third-party applications for every new hardware platform they (MS) will port MS Windows or IE? Yes, I know MS didn't do well with compatibility even of their own development tools/languages - VB6 being one of the most well-known examples. But WOA is a "different story" in my opinion. I can be wrong. Please feel free to "poke some fun" on my reasoning :) Thank you. -- Shamil Понедельник, 17 декабря 2012, 0:31 от Hans-Christian Andersen <hans.andersen at phulse.com>: << tail skipped to get through dba-VB 20KB message size limit >>>