[dba-Tech] VPN on a virtual Windows 2008 server...and RemoteDesktop

Jim Lawrence accessd at shaw.ca
Wed Jan 18 16:44:20 CST 2012


Check this out Steve:
http://www.codeproject.com/KB/dotnet/DotNetBuildSmClnts.aspx

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 1:45 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPN on a virtual Windows 2008 server...and
RemoteDesktop

Jim,

I have some familiarity with IronSpeed. As I think over the possibilities,
converting it all myself is a very desirable prospect.  Even though
IronSpeed has excellent visuals, this is more of a query and reporting
application than a data entry application. There certainly is a data entry
component but its value comes from the data analysis and reporting.

Thank you very much for your comments.

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Well I am very glad to hear that. I am well aware of the limits of a large
> commercial hosting site and they are very judicious on how much resources
> they dispense and the prices they charge.
>
> In the long run I have found if you or your company have long term goals
> and
> a solid business plan, it is best to invest at the start and roll your
own.
>
> There are some application out there that promise to make the conversion
of
> an Access project to web based easy. How good they are I would not know.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/7om8gdq
>
> http://tinyurl.com/7bbp4xq
>
> ..and thoughts about migration.
> http://tinyurl.com/6ouuask
>
> Starting a business up with no money is a very difficult process and a
> process in which no one gets paid for a while and might never get paid or
> they may just strike it lucky...those are the risks. (...have been there
> and
> done that a number of times...)
>
> The bottom line there is no cheap, fast with good results way to do this.
>
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 12:56 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPN on a virtual Windows 2008 server...and
> RemoteDesktop
>
> Jim,
>
> We haven't painted ourselves into a corner.  My client -- the owner of the
> app I wrote -- was hoping to offer the application via the Internet
without
> first having to convert it to an ASP.NET/SQL Server web app.  I've quoted
> him on that, but it was a bit high for his blood. It's been a while since
I
> made that quote (3 years or so) and I know more about .NET and SQL Server
> so I'm going to re-visit it.
>
> One option is to continue marketing the application as a stand-alone or
> LAN-based Access app as it has been for years.  Of course, keeping
everyone
> at the same revision level is a challenge.
>
> He recently left the company he was working for after 24 years due to
> re-org. Now he wants to devote his energies to this side business that
he's
> had all these years. My app is a very large part of that. That's why he'd
> hoped (me too!) that we could do an interim "Internet" solution with
Remote
> Desktop.
>
> I got confirmation from GoDaddy that the plan my client purchased (at my
> recommendation for about $41 a month) isn't sufficient enough to allow a
> VPN to be set up nor can Windows Remote Access Server be set up on it.
>  Have to upgrade to a full dedicated server at about triple the price. I
> think he should also hire a network guru to assist in setting up VPN and
> Remote Access...if we go that way.  What you said about the resource
> requirement is important.
>
> Thanks, Jim.
>
> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> > Hi Steve:
> >
> > I am a little late to this discussion so most has already been said.
> >
> > First: MS always has two term server connection, on their servers,
> designed
> > mostly for administration support. Any other terminal licenses must be
> > purchased separately.
> >
> > Second: I have not worked much with MS terminal services but have done a
> > bit
> > with Citrix (the MS terminal server core is Citrix) as related to some
> > large
> > clients (various banks). I have not been to the Toronto hosting sites
but
> > have received a few pictures, from friends and the BE is huge. It takes
a
> > lot of muscle to handle many remote sessions.
> >
> > Third: Hamachi is now owned by LogMeIn. I met with the owners of the
> > original company as they are from Vancouver. Hamachi works because it
> > accesses addresses and ports outside scan range (In the 5.xx.xx.xx
range)
> > and these ports are usually not blocked by the hosting routers. The only
> > way
> > these ports can be setup, is to remote-in to remote your server, then
you
> > install Hamachi and it then monitors the new port, it generates,
allowing
> > remote access. Then the new port can be used for connecting. Note your
> > hosting company may have blocked the Hamachi working ports as that may
be
> > considered a security violation.
> >
> > Aside: The DBA web site is in virtual drive and it is managed through a
> > secure Hamachi connection. Of course web sites are designed to handle
> > hundreds of sessions with minimal impact...thanks to IIS (or Apache).
> >
> > A question: Unless you remote host company is specifically setup to
> manage
> > multiple remote sessions, like a full terminal server installation, the
> > impact on their system would be dramatic or you remote performance would
> be
> > throttled down... I did not remember hearing if that is the type of
> hosting
> > you have purchased.
> >
> > I really do hope you have not painted yourself into a corner with this
> > contract but the good news is that there are alternatives but they are
> not
> > quick or easy.
> >
> > Jim
> >
>
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