John Bartow
john at winhaven.net
Tue Jun 12 10:41:53 CDT 2012
Hi Gustav, Agreed! I rarely have to clean regular client machines which have proper protection and user instructions. But new, or short term, client's machines that are infected are generally quite a mess these days. The users either don't have protection, don't renew their protection or have poor quality protection such McLafee. Or they bypass the protection in order to do something the protection won't let them. I'm always looking for effective cleanup tools. Thanks, I will try TrojanHunter. -John B -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 3:51 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Printer virus Hi Jim TrojanHunter. This and Malwarebytes are the two who have cleaned up the mess where normal tools gave up. We've never used it internally, only on clients' machines, which tells that common sense can help to avoid malware nearly 100%. In my experience, if these can't do it, reinstall is the only realistic next step. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 11-06-12 20:08 >>> Malwarebytes is also a recommendation as, mentioned before, in one particular case, it detected a virus that not even Vipre or Essentials could find. The more weapons that can be deployed against an infection the better. I would recommend keeping a self booting thumb-drive full of latest options, as the best policy. A Linux self booting memory stick would have a smallest foot-print and be far less likely to suffer infection but I haven't built one yet. ;-) ...there are a few ISOs out there with all sorts of products included and they might be worthy of further investigation. Anyone have any recommendation? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 10:06 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Printer virus I'd recommend almost anything else instead. But for enterprise situations I use Vipre Business edition, for tiny businesses (< 10) and for home offices I prefer Vipre Internet Security (now includes an Android solution as well). It has free U.S based support. I don't know of any Ireland based AVs. Sophos was U.K. based, so maybe that would be a good alternative to look into. Having good, understandable support people available is very important when things do go wrong. And nothing out there is perfect. I've been Beta testing and using Vipre since they wrote the program a few years ago. I liked it so much that I became an GFI affiliate and Partner. Here's a link which includes my affiliate info: https://shop.vipreantivirus.com/582/cookie?affiliate=15847&redirectto=http%3 a%2f%2fwww.vipreantivirus.com%2fVIPRE-Internet-Security%2f&product=65888 (It's easy to become an affiliate of almost every company but I choose not to because I don't want to associate my name with things I wouldn't recommend for free anyway). For free security, I now recommend Microsoft Security Essentials and Windows Firewall: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows/products/security-essentials It runs a lot lighter than most of the free ones and has UI that people can understand. I also change their Routers or NICs to use "clean" DNS servers. OpenDNS has a free service. www.opendns.org (There are others available.) I also install the free version of MalwareBytes (without active protection enabled). Then if someone calls with what sounds like a fake security program that got by Vipre's active protection, I have them scan with MalWareBytes (which is really good at cleaning those off). Good luck! John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 3:27 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Printer virus Hi John, What should we be using? I do not pay too much attention to it, but I have McAfee on a few sites. thanks Mark _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com