Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Tue Jun 19 22:55:56 CDT 2012
I thought we were discussing products strictly on their costs but because the manufactures are so linked it is difficult to separate them from the topic. My focus was only on one point, dollar and cents and nothing to do with " tribal mindset " or any other side issues. As soon as you start adding a keyboard the product immediately moves into the world of laptops and all the functionality that they provide or in this case, imply they will provide. Pads of all kinds have their place and they do what they do very well but they are not a business or development machine, plain and simple and it is a waste of time to make them so. I think MS is trying to make a pseudo pad/laptop/business machine and I have a hard time getting my head around a product like high-performance racing dump truck. ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hans-Christian Andersen Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 5:48 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MS launch of Surface range I would rather not indulge any irrational and excessive dislike for Apple products. I'd rather we talk like serious professionals who have a curiosity with all things technology, rather than be stuck in a tribal mindset. The question I was wondering is whether it makes sense to spend that much money on a tablet when cheaper, high quality alternatives exist that satisfy whatever your needs are - whether it be a portable development platform (laptop) or a handy portable device for general email/chat/web surfing/content consumption etc (tablet). - Hans Sent from my iPhone On 2012-06-19, at 3:25 PM, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: > Not that I disagree with you at all but I have been using the very same > argument with regards to MAC equipment. Why not just buy a nice laptop that > performs as good or better at half the price? ;-) > > Is looks and having the "right" gear that important?...Isn't development > production more important? > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hans-Christian > Andersen > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:21 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] MS launch of Surface range > >> Because it will run (my) Windows applications! > > Not if you buy the Windows RT ARM version. You will have to buy the bulkier > Intel version, which cost $700-1000 from what I understand. At that price, > you might as well just buy a nice laptop or net book in my opinion. Or 2 > iPads/Androids with a keyboard attachment. > > Best regards, > Hans-Christian Andersen > > > On 19 Jun 2012, at 10:06, "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote: > >> Hi Peter >> >> Because it will run (my) Windows applications! >> >> That turns the machine from a toy to a tool. What a difference. And with > the beautiful Metro interface when you use it in tablet mode. >> >> Besides, it is even neater than an iPad. I mailed the pictures to my wife > with minimum comments (busy with other tasks) but she ordered her copy right > away. >> >> /gustav >> >> >>>>> peter.brawley at earthlink.net 19-06-12 18:37 >>> >> On 2012-06-19 4:40 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: >>> Official site: >>> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en/us/default.aspx >>> >>> I want one. >> >> Why, when you can have an android with all those open source and free or >> nearly free widgets & tools? >> >> PB >> >> ----- >> >>> >>> /gustav >>> >>> >>>>>> gustav at cactus.dk 19-06-12 8:18>>> >>> Very neat: >>> >>> http://www.bgr.com/nggallery/page-320/album-all/gallery-529/ >>> >>> I haven't seen that style of an integrated keyboard before. This way the > unit actually may be useful for real work. >>> >>> /gustav >>> >>> >>>>>> bheid at sc.rr.com 19-06-12 4:32>>> >>> It looks like the pro model has USB 3 on it and maybe a display port. >>> >>> Is interesting though. >>> >>> Bobby >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DJK (John) >>> Robinson >>> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 8:21 PM >>> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' >>> Subject: [dba-Tech] MS launch of Surface range >>> >>> The 'mystery' launch of the MS's new Surface tablet has just ended. >>> >>> Looks interesting - tablet with stand and keyboard. Thin, VaporMag, but >>> only USB2. more than one model: Win8 or RT. >>> Nice design, though no info on battery life. >>> >>> Think I might want one ... >>> >>> John >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com