Martin Reid
mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk
Thu Sep 6 13:42:57 CDT 2012
We have 5000 plus all using IE. Personally I don't see what the fuss is. Sites I need work in IE, FF chrome and google I don't really care what the browser is. As for mobile who in their right mind wants to do anything on a tiny screen just like the one I am typing this on. Martin Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Hans-Christian Andersen Sent: 06/09/2012 18:52 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The fate of IE I haven't personally used IE for 6-7 years roughly and I don't know anyone else who does (for the last 3 companies I've worked at). The current place I work at (a web company), we design our web apps primarily around Chrome and Firefox and then fix it to work with IE afterwards. Why? Because they have far better tools for developers to work with (webkit inspector and firebug) and they conform more to standards than IE. I don't see much hope for IE in the future - just a slow decline. Most companies develop their web apps with an eye on mobile and mobile is currently dominated by browsers based on the webkit engine (chrome and safari). IE is more a nuisance than anything else. It's unfortunate to be stuck in the position of having to use IE because of a throwback to an era when a poor decision was made to only support IE (I can think of one I worked for a long time ago that betted heavily on ActiveX. LOL!), but its a changing landscape and you have to keep up with the times or get left behind. Microsoft should follow the same model as everyone else is doing with rolling releases of their browsers rather than big releases (IE 6, 7, 8, 9, etc). Personally, I would prefer it if Microsoft got rid of their own trident engine altogether and adopt Webkit. I just don't see the point of them having to do it their own way. I don't know if it's pride or ego or whatnot, but it's an inconvenience for us web developers. - Hans On 2012-09-05, at 12:13 PM, "Jon Tydda" <jon at tydda.plus.com> wrote: > Not designing for IE is a big mistake IMO. Many companies have bespoke > applications that ONLY work in IE, therefore they don't allow other browsers > to be used. > > My company is one such example. I've been looking into licencing at all the > UK sites this week, so I happen to have the figures. We have approx. 1000 > PCs. All bar one has IE8. Mine is the one with IE9 on it. We have 2 Chrome > installations (both in the IT department), and 19 Firefox (there are 12 > different versions of Firefox on those 19 computers!). > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos > Sent: 05 September 2012 19:56 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The fate of IE > > I still find sites that don't work right unless I use IE. > > GK > > On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: > >> Microsoft's IE is still doing well in the percentage of use by users. >> >> After all, it comes automatically on every Windows computer and given >> many users laziness or just fear of trying anything new, may be the >> only thing that is saving it. >> >> What has changed is that it has finally become clear that most web >> developers have abandoned doing work on the browser. It has just >> become too expensive. According to the attached article, only about 16 >> percent of developers are now actively supporting the IE product line. >> >> If this trend continues, eventually, whether the basic Windows >> consumer wishes it or not, they will find themselves having to move to >> other browsers if they wish to enjoy any of the modern content >> delivery applications. >> >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/09/04/internet_explorer/ >> >> For me as a web developer, either the re-developement of IE, to >> industry standards or IE's demise, couldn't happen soon enough. >> >> Jim >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > > > -- > Gary Kjos > garykjos at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com