[dba-Tech] SPAM filter for Windows SBS 2011

Yep, I *can* read any message sitting in any IMAP/POP3 mailbox of any of the clients I host.

I *can* also see read any of my clients SMTP email that has passed through the spam filter 
service in the last 30 days.

So can any other ISP, but we have more important things to do.

 -- 
Stuart

On 13 Feb 2013 at 21:53, Gustav Brock wrote:

> Hi Jim
> 
> I don't know really. The add match thing is mostly relevant if you use
> the Gmail web-interface but who knows if Google also compares your IP
> address when searching with the IP address used by your IMAP or POP3
> client? If you are paranoid, dark ages are certainly facing you. 
> 
> We have a spamfilter service here like the one Stuart mentions. Once I
> called them on behalf of a client because of some trouble, and the
> first-line techie could at once from the log list the  in and outgoing
> mail traffic by senders and receivers during the last hours. It was an
> eye-opener. The client was a Public Relations Agency, and you know
> what kind of confidential stuff may be interchanged in that business.
> And there you were with a who-know-what youngster able to follow that
> traffic and, probably, reading it as well should he wish to. The
> client even paid these people. 
> 
> This is where the ISPs may be different. I don't think they read your
> mail because it serves no purpose only adding costs. It's different
> for Google and Yahoo - it is fuel for them - and the authorities who
> scan for very different purposes not related to money. 
> 
> So I think I prefer to run my own mail server and own spam filter and
> believe in the "open postcard" scenario; the postman doesn't read all
> postcards he brings out - there is not enough time, and the obtained
> information would be mostly useless. 
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> >>> accessd at shaw.ca 13-02-13 19:16 >>>
> Hi Gustav:
> 
> So what you are saying is that be safe, install and use your own mail server?
> 
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 2:34 AM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SPAM filter for Windows SBS 2011
> 
> Hi John and Stuart
> 
> > you could just as well get a corporate account at Google mail ..
> 
> I think I'll reconsider that advice ... at least advice to think twice.
> 
> http://www.scroogled.com/
> 
> <quote>
> Even if you're not a Gmail user, Google still goes through your personal email sent to [and from] Gmail ..
> </quote>
> 
> Scary.
> Outlook.com claims to be different, but we only have MS' words for it.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] På vegne af Gustav Brock
> Sendt: 12. februar 2013 15:28
> Til: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] SPAM filter for Windows SBS 2011
> 
> Hi John and Stuart
> 
> One severe issue with such services is, that you don't know who else might
> be reading your incoming mail. I know, e-mail is like open postcards but
> still.
> 
> If you (your client) is ready to take the step anyway, you could just as
> well get a corporate account at Google mail or Microsoft, move your primary
> MX to that, and set automatic forwarding of all mail to your local mail
> server. This way you will even have automatic archiving of all incoming mail
> at no added cost.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 4:32 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] SPAM filter for Windows SBS 2011
> 
> Depending on your cicrumstances, onlline filtering may the the way to go.
> 
> I resell these guys in PNG and am very impressed with them:
> 
> http://onlinespamsolutions.com/
> 
> --
> Stuart 
> 
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