[dba-Tech] PCs are here to stay

Salakhetdinov Shamil mcp2004 at mail.ru
Tue Jan 15 05:59:16 CST 2013


 Hans --

"kicking the can down the road" vs. "pigeonhole" (Russian: 'откладывать в долгий ящик') :) -  in local meaning "(keeping) kicking something" is (usually) a (long lasting, periodic) action, which requires some efforts, and "pigeonhole" is a complete inactivity after the initial action of "putting something into a 'pigeon-hole'". I meant "pigeonhole till January 2014" the analysis of stats of PC market OSes usage.

I didn't mean to stop this discussion thread on what tasks/jobs are more suitable for PCs running Windows (8) and what for Linux, what are their TCO etc.

-- Shamil

Вторник, 15 января 2013, 3:09 -08:00 от Hans-Christian Andersen <hans.andersen at phulse.com>:
>There is a key difference between the two idioms. In the example of "kicking the can down the road", the presumption is that you aim to continue delaying this decision even further down the road (alas, you keep kicking the can down the road or "lets go back to this thread in 2015... 2016... etc"). This sort of thing is not implied with pigeonholing (at least not in common English to my knowledge).
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>I thought this was a discussion of current events though. I see no reason why we cannot express our opinion as it stands today. It is very unlikely we will continue this thread a year from now. I'm pretty certain of that.
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>- Hans
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>On 2013-01-15, at 2:48 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote:
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>> Hi Hans --
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>> "Kicking the can down the road" ;) BTW, the local equivalent would be an idiomatic expression sounding in English as "pigeonhole". We don't have the cans to kick down the roads or roads are not so good here and are mainly flat so managing to kick the cans down far enough would require quite some efforts :)
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>> No, (I hope) I personally don't (pigeonhole).
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>> As I have noted in parallel to my everyday development work, which is mainly desktop and web services Windows apps, I'm also learning the new technologies (via PluralSight, tech. books , articles etc.) with HTML5, CSS3, JavaScript, jQuery, Knockout, SPA, RESTful web services, multi-platform mobile apps being "the main targets". And all that "main targets" can be achieved using Win7/Win8, Visual Studio 2012, SQL Server (Express) and relatively inexpensive but effective enough IIS-based Web hosting...
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>> You know I have worked with many information media, technologies and programming languages starting with punch tapes and cards, mainframes, minicomputers, macro-assemblers, PL/I, C, C++, Pascal,... used to use command line (in RSX-11M/PDP-11) quite a lot, patched RSX-11M core to get my system utilities to work... - and currently I and my customers are satisfied with MS Windows and Windows-based custom software development is that desktop or web services or web sites...
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>> Let's get back to this thread subject in January 2014?
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>> -- Shamil
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>> Вторник, 15 января 2013, 1:52 -08:00 от Hans-Christian Andersen < hans.andersen at phulse.com >:
>>> Kicking the can down the road, are we?
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>>> ;)
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