Hans-Christian Andersen
hans.andersen at phulse.com
Tue Jan 29 18:51:33 CST 2013
I called it tempest in a teapot because you were saying that your inability to find safari for windows in their main search box along with a quip about apple marketing machine as being contributing factors to Apples recently fallen stock prices. I've been around here for a while, but I've been through a silent stretch because i have nothing to contribute to anything related to Access and there have been heated discussions relating to Apple things that put me off for a bit. Just to give you an example, I once replied to a thread on my iPhone and the first reply I got was a snarky comment about the fact that my iPhone appends the following signature at the bottom on my email: "Sent from my iPhone" And other times there will be comments about something to do with macs or iPhones or whatever which are demonstrably incorrect and, if I doth protest, some get suddenly very defensive about it. I get that most of you have very limited experience with apple products, especially the desktop, so I can't help but focus on pointing out when wrong assumptions are made because I do have that experience, but there's no one else here to back me up, so those threads often end up going no where. So, what is it going to be then? That we can openly talk about things or that we avoid the topic of Apple things altogether? - Hans On 2013-01-29, at 4:10 PM, "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net> wrote: > I'm not anti-apple. I'm just not pro apple. > I don't care for iOS as it irks me with some of the things it can't do. I > like doing a few things on an iPad but I prefer doing almost everything on > an Android tablet. I think Steve Jobs was very capable of leading and > directive some of the brightest most creative people in the industry. We > nitpick everything else to death on these lists but wow, say one thing > negative about apple and all of a sudden it's a tempest? I searched for > "safari on windows" but alas I did it from their search box since it is > their site and I had no idea it was a support issue. Wow, now I can add > that Apple has to rely on Google's search to find their own products. Steve > is rolling again. > > I'm not anti-Google. I'm just not pro Google. > Android generally works good. It has some irritating things about it also. I > think that's why they have "new versions of it". I rub my GSIII's abilities > in my Mac-head nephew's face all the time ;-) > > I'm not anti-Microsoft. I'm not pro Microsoft. > I make most of my income from or supporting their products. I don't care for > their CEO, I don't care for their marketing. Windows irks me all day long. > Until Windows NT 4 was released I hated Windows, it made my life a PITA! > Much of the reason Windows irks me all day long is that it has so much > legacy support built in that it's a hog. That's also one of its benefits. > > Life is interesting all the way around. Why does everyone have to be in a > camp? > > Wow, for over a decade we were fairly candid on these lists. Guess I'll have > to hold back my colossal criticisms. > > How long have you been subscribed? > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hans-Christian > Andersen > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 3:22 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] For web developers > > It's perfectly searchable if you go to Apple support ( > http://support.apple.com/kb/index?page=search&src=www_site.more.search&local > e=en_US&q=Safari%20windows ). > > Then, of course, you can also find it as the top link in Google, where most > people would probably go to look first. > > I know I'm speaking on a very anti-"everything Apple" mailing list, but > isn't this a bit 'Tempest in a teapot'? > > > - Hans > > > On 2013-01-29, at 12:32 PM, "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net> wrote: > >> Thanks Gary, >> At least II know I'm not nuts - or too nuts ;-) >> >> But LOL, that's about as halfMac'd as it can get. Can't link their own >> pages correctly. Spending millions advertising that their phones can >> go into "silent mode". No kidding, what phone can't? is it any wonder >> their stock has fallen? Sad. >> Steve Jobs has to be rolling over. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos >> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 11:41 AM >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] For web developers >> >> http://www.macrumors.com/2012/07/25/apples-removes-mentions-of-safari- >> for-wi ndows-but-version-5-1-7-still-available/ >> >> "Update: Apple has pulled the standalone Safari 5.1.7 for Windows >> download page, redirecting visitors to the previous version that links >> to the now-discontinued general Safari download page. As a result, it >> appears that Safari for Windows is now not directly linked anywhere in >> Apple's official download pages. " >> >> This was dated July 25, 2012. >> >> GK >> >> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:40 AM, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote: >>> Thanks for the link. I searched Apple's site and its search wouldn't >>> find it for me. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim >>> Lawrence >>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 11:33 PM >>> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' >>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] For web developers >>> >>> As so many of my geeky younger friends, older friends, sons and >>> daughters use Apple computers I feel I must support it. >>> >>> http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1531 >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John >>> Bartow >>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 8:35 PM >>> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' >>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] For web developers >>> >>> Safari - who cares - but really, what happened to Apple's download >>> for it? I uninstalled it a while ago and I can't find where to >>> download it >> anymore. >>> Have they given up on Safari for Windows? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Gary Kjos >> garykjos at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com