[dba-Tech] For web developers

Salakhetdinov Shamil mcp2004 at mail.ru
Tue Jan 29 19:16:19 CST 2013


 Hi Hans --

<<<
> Before you counter my email, I recommend you read this article:
>  http://www.zdnet.com/amazons-top-selling-laptop-doesnt-run-windows-or-mac-os-it-runs-linux-7000009433/
>>>
No problem - I just wanted to note, I suppose, I haven't written anything in this thread to be expected to "counter on your e-mail" and that I do not have any "standards" by which I'd "make google evil by their trying to squeeze out their browser competitors" in their Chromebooks.

As John Bartow noted here recently:

<<
I'm not anti-apple. I'm just not pro apple. 
I'm not anti-Google. I'm just not pro Google.
I'm not anti-Microsoft. I'm not pro Microsoft.
>> -- Shamil

Вторник, 29 января 2013, 15:54 -08:00 от Hans-Christian Andersen <hans.andersen at phulse.com>:
>Forgive me if something was lost in translation, but were you just letting me know what articles you have read or did I misunderstand something?
>
>- Hans
>
>
>On 2013-01-29, at 3:44 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote:
>
>> Hi Hans --
>> 
>> <<<
>> Before you counter my email, I recommend you read this article:
>>  http://www.zdnet.com/amazons-top-selling-laptop-doesnt-run-windows-or-mac-os-it-runs-linux-7000009433/
>> I suppose this remark is for Jim and his note " that both Apple and MS will make  moves to eliminate competing browsers"?
>> 
>> And I have already read the article you refer as well as the articles I have referred in my quoted posting - from all that articles' info I'd assume that it would be unwise to try to eliminate competing browsers.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> -- Shamil
>> 
>> 
>> Вторник, 29 января 2013, 15:31 -08:00 от Hans-Christian Andersen < hans.andersen at phulse.com >:
>>> And the fact that both Chrome and Safari are based on WebKit, which is a project that is open sourced on the BSD licence, which essentially means the code is all yours, do what you wish with it (unlike with GPL, which has some conditions).
>>> 
>>> How come no one ever mentions the fact that you cannot install any other browser on a chomebook? By your standards, this would make google evil and trying to squeeze out its browser competitors, would it not? :)
>>> 
>>> Before you counter my email, I recommend you read this article:
>>>  http://www.zdnet.com/amazons-top-selling-laptop-doesnt-run-windows-or-mac-os-it-runs-linux-7000009433/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Hans
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2013-01-29, at 3:01 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil <  mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Jim --
>>>> 
>>>> <<<
>>>> I fully believe that both Apple and MS will make 
>>>> moves to eliminate competing browsers.
>>>> 
>>>> But what they can do with Android taking now 70% of global market smartphones share
>>>>  http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/28/android-ios-grabbed-92-of-global-smartphone-shipments-in-q4-2012-android-undisputed-volume-leader-says-analyst/
>>>> 
>>>> and "Android tablets gaining on iPads"
>>>>  http://www.tech-thoughts.net/2012/11/tablet-market-share-trends-android-ipad.html#.UQhUbSefh_8
>>>> 
>>>> ?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- Shamil
>>>> 
>>>> Вторник, 29 января 2013, 14:13 -08:00 от "Jim Lawrence" <  accessd at shaw.ca >:
>>>>> Hi John:
>>>>> 
>>>>> In this high-stakes game of controlling the internet and the browser
>>>>> port-holes to the same, hardware companies like Apple and want-a-bes like
>>>>> Microsoft are trying to consolidate their advantage. I fully believe that
>>>>> both Apple and MS will make moves to eliminate competing browsers...and that
>>>>> will mean stopping their biggest competitors like Google and for a small
>>>>> part Firefox.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Without government intervention claiming a monopoly, or stiff client
>>>>> disapproval, Google along with third-party application developers (like
>>>>> Amazon for example) could be removed from between 50 to 60 percent of the
>>>>> market or be forced to pay taffies to enjoy access. All these potential
>>>>> market trends give me pause. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim
>>>> <<< skipped >>>


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