[dba-Tech] For web developers

Hans-Christian Andersen hans.andersen at phulse.com
Tue Jan 29 20:19:49 CST 2013


Was someone here being accused of being a fanboy / fanatic?

- Hans



On 2013-01-29, at 6:09 PM, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi John:
> 
> That was well said.
> 
> There is no point in being a fanboz or fanatics. Every problem has a
> solution but not necessarily from the same product.
> 
> Jim 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 4:11 PM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] For web developers
> 
> I'm not anti-apple. I'm just not pro apple. 
> I don't care for iOS as it irks me with some of the things it can't do. I
> like doing a few things on an iPad but I prefer doing almost everything on
> an Android tablet. I think Steve Jobs was very capable of leading and
> directive some of the brightest most creative people in the industry. We
> nitpick everything else to death on these lists but wow, say one thing
> negative about apple and all of a sudden it's a tempest? I searched for
> "safari on windows" but alas I did it from their search box since it is
> their site and I had no idea it was a support issue.  Wow, now I can add
> that Apple has to rely on Google's search to find their own products. Steve
> is rolling again.
> 
> I'm not anti-Google. I'm just not pro Google.
> Android generally works good. It has some irritating things about it also. I
> think that's why they have "new versions of it". I rub my GSIII's abilities
> in my Mac-head nephew's face all the time ;-)
> 
> I'm not anti-Microsoft. I'm not pro Microsoft.
> I make most of my income from or supporting their products. I don't care for
> their CEO, I don't care for their marketing. Windows irks me all day long.
> Until Windows NT 4 was released I hated Windows, it made my life a PITA!
> Much of the reason Windows irks me all day long is that it has so much
> legacy support built in that it's a hog. That's also one of its benefits.
> 
> Life is interesting all the way around. Why does everyone have to be in a
> camp?
> 
> Wow, for over a decade we were fairly candid on these lists. Guess I'll have
> to hold back my colossal criticisms. 
> 
> How long have you been subscribed?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hans-Christian
> Andersen
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 3:22 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] For web developers
> 
> It's perfectly searchable if you go to Apple support (
> http://support.apple.com/kb/index?page=search&src=www_site.more.search&local
> e=en_US&q=Safari%20windows ).
> 
> Then, of course, you can also find it as the top link in Google, where most
> people would probably go to look first.
> 
> I know I'm speaking on a very anti-"everything Apple" mailing list, but
> isn't this a bit 'Tempest in a teapot'?
> 
> 
> - Hans
> 
> 
> On 2013-01-29, at 12:32 PM, "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Gary,
>> At least II know I'm not nuts - or too nuts ;-)
>> 
>> But LOL, that's about as halfMac'd as it can get. Can't link their own 
>> pages correctly. Spending millions advertising that their phones can 
>> go into "silent mode". No kidding, what phone can't? is it any wonder 
>> their stock has fallen? Sad.
>> Steve Jobs has to be rolling over.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 11:41 AM
>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] For web developers
>> 
>> http://www.macrumors.com/2012/07/25/apples-removes-mentions-of-safari-
>> for-wi ndows-but-version-5-1-7-still-available/
>> 
>> "Update: Apple has pulled the standalone Safari 5.1.7 for Windows 
>> download page, redirecting visitors to the previous version that links 
>> to the now-discontinued general Safari download page. As a result, it 
>> appears that Safari for Windows is now not directly linked anywhere in 
>> Apple's official download pages. "
>> 
>> This was dated July 25, 2012.
>> 
>> GK
>> 
>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:40 AM, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote:
>>> Thanks for the link. I searched Apple's site and its search wouldn't 
>>> find it for me.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim 
>>> Lawrence
>>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 11:33 PM
>>> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
>>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] For web developers
>>> 
>>> As so many of my geeky younger friends, older friends, sons and 
>>> daughters use Apple computers I feel I must support it.
>>> 
>>> http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1531
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John 
>>> Bartow
>>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 8:35 PM
>>> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
>>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] For web developers
>>> 
>>> Safari - who cares - but really, what happened to Apple's download 
>>> for it? I uninstalled it a while ago and I can't find where to 
>>> download it
>> anymore.
>>> Have they given up on Safari for Windows?
>>> 
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>> 
>> --
>> Gary Kjos
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