John Bartow
john at winhaven.net
Tue Jan 29 22:06:31 CST 2013
I tried to turn off secure boot and install Windows 7 over Windows 8 the other day. Windows 7 just hung. (Had to turn secure boot off because Windows 7 DVD wouldn't boot). -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hans-Christian Andersen Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:13 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] For web developers > There is no reason why any other browser could not be tricked up to run on the same laptop as there is nothing particularly proprietary about the hardware. The same is true for any computer though. You can just as easily decide to install Windows on a Mac or Linux on a Windows PC (ok, so Microsoft is trying to make it harder to do that, but you can still turn secure boot off in the bios). > Note: the OS on the Chrome note book is not an OS in the real sense of the word just a browser extension fitted to take advantage of a piece of laptop hardware. Chrome OS is a real OS. It is based on Linux, which is a real OS. They have simply customised it so that it is completely locked down and only allows you to run a fancy version of Chrome and some extra utilities that Google provides, like all Google integrated web services, the wifi manager, power manager and audio level widget, etc. - Hans On 2013-01-29, at 5:28 PM, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: > Hi Hans: > > Note: the OS on the Chrome note book is not an OS in the real sense of > the word just a browser extension fitted to take advantage of a piece > of laptop hardware. There is nothing really to install... It may store > setting, links and downloads but it is hardly what would conceive as a laptop/PC... > extended functionality can only be retrieved as a web based > application that is being applied to locally cached data but only if the codecs match. > > There is no reason why any other browser could not be tricked up to > run on the same laptop as there is nothing particularly proprietary > about the hardware. > > It would or is it that we should expect other browsers to take advance > of this cheap piece of hardware to extend their OS environment via > their browser interface. FireFox is very close to releasing its own > browser OS and such a piece of hardware as a base might be very attractive. > > Aside: If may be theoretically possible to run a browser on a browser > through some interesting method of reciprocation but that is not how > any browser is built...not today anyway. > > Would Microsoft or Apple extend their browsers, IE and Safari OS to > take advantage of a basic piece of hardware or only use highly > proprietary locked down equipment for that purpose? > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Hans-Christian Andersen > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 3:32 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] For web developers > > And the fact that both Chrome and Safari are based on WebKit, which is > a project that is open sourced on the BSD licence, which essentially > means the code is all yours, do what you wish with it (unlike with > GPL, which has some conditions). > > How come no one ever mentions the fact that you cannot install any > other browser on a chomebook? By your standards, this would make > google evil and trying to squeeze out its browser competitors, would > it not? :) > > Before you counter my email, I recommend you read this article: > http://www.zdnet.com/amazons-top-selling-laptop-doesnt-run-windows-or- > mac-os > -it-runs-linux-7000009433/ > > > - Hans > > > On 2013-01-29, at 3:01 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru> wrote: > >> Hi Jim -- >> >> <<< >> I fully believe that both Apple and MS will make moves to eliminate >> competing browsers. >> >> But what they can do with Android taking now 70% of global market > smartphones share >> > http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/28/android-ios-grabbed-92-of-global-smar > tphone > -shipments-in-q4-2012-android-undisputed-volume-leader-says-analyst/ >> >> and "Android tablets gaining on iPads" >> > http://www.tech-thoughts.net/2012/11/tablet-market-share-trends-androi > d-ipad > .html#.UQhUbSefh_8 >> >> ? >> >> >> -- Shamil >> >> Вторник, 29 января 2013, 14:13 -08:00 от "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>: >>> Hi John: >>> >>> In this high-stakes game of controlling the internet and the browser >>> port-holes to the same, hardware companies like Apple and want-a-bes >>> like Microsoft are trying to consolidate their advantage. I fully >>> believe that both Apple and MS will make moves to eliminate >>> competing browsers...and > that >>> will mean stopping their biggest competitors like Google and for a >>> small part Firefox. >>> >>> Without government intervention claiming a monopoly, or stiff client >>> disapproval, Google along with third-party application developers >>> (like Amazon for example) could be removed from between 50 to 60 >>> percent of the market or be forced to pay taffies to enjoy access. >>> All these potential market trends give me pause. >>> >>> Jim >> <<< skipped >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com