[dba-Tech] Now that google apps is not free what do we do for cloudemail

Hans-Christian Andersen hans.andersen at phulse.com
Thu Jan 31 03:23:26 CST 2013


Hi Mark,

If you clients are willing to pay a little something, then I'd be happy to set up a VPS with Zimbra being hosted and maintain it. I was going to set up a VPS anyways for my own reasons, but thought I would ask your opinion anyhow.

- Hans


On 2013-01-31, at 1:12 AM, Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> Just to share my thought process with you.
> 
> As I mentioned, I am using gmail for domains for most clients since Sept
> 2006.
> 
> As I have not seen a better, easier way of hosting email in the cloud with
> close to zero admin, I think I must propose to customers to pay google the
> money for each account.  It is US$50 per user per year.  If a company
> cannot afford  / justify that for an employee, then it has bigger problems
> than just their email.
> 
> I love the look of Zimbra, but I have limited time, so I guess the easy
> route for me is simply use the Google Apps product.
> 
> Anyone else in the same boat ?  What are you going to do do?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 31 January 2013 09:08, Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hello Jim,
>> 
>> You mention Google Mail is still free.
>> 
>> Are you referring to gmail single user or do you mean Gmail for domains.
>> 
>> AFAICS, Gmail for domains (google Apps) is no longer free, even for 1
>> user.  Am I missing something ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 17 January 2013 18:20, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>> 
>>> Google mail is still free and if you need a free office product try Libra
>>> Office (It is OSS so there are not limits or licensing issues) and even
>>> Microsoft has 25 GB of free Cloud space for a shared file directory and
>>> then
>>> there is dropbox with 10-20GB available.
>>> 
>>> The tools are all there just have to do some creative thinking.
>>> 
>>> If you want to stretch further, you can hack some Linux box together and
>>> you
>>> can have unlimited remote sessions through your remote desktop (limited of
>>> course by resources). You can add in Apache and have remote access from
>>> anywhere through the WebServer. Then there is OpenVPN...
>>> 
>>> Even with Microsoft, just put a shared folder on a client's server and set
>>> it up so it can be accessed from anywhere in the network and externally
>>> though Microsoft's Remote desktop but you are only allows two remote
>>> sessions, for free. There are many other options that can save your client
>>> thousands.
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:20 AM
>>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Now that google apps is not free what do we do for
>>> cloudemail
>>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> Since Sept 2006 I have been using Google Apps for company based email for
>>> my clients.
>>> 
>>> As you may know, as of Dec 6th 2012, google no longer offer this service
>>> for free.  It must now be paid for at a rate of US$50 Per user per year.
>>> For a small company 5 - 10 employees, this is not expensive, but over 5
>>> years, it still amounts to 1250 - 2500.
>>> 
>>> In my opinion, it is still good value for what you get, but I wonder what
>>> you use if you want to have company based *cloud *email for free.
>>> 
>>> Any recommendations ?
>>> 
>>> Mark
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