Hans-Christian Andersen
hans.andersen at phulse.com
Tue Jul 23 04:11:32 CDT 2013
Hi Mark, Feel free to comment! Unfortunately, Linux on laptops can be touch and go some times (many thanks to Microsoft's attempts to make ACPI a nightmare to work with). I've had issues with Ubuntu as well, but it's great that there are distros of Linux out there that are focused on getting Linux to work right on consumer grade hardware. I personally blame the poor quality of PC laptops. I started at my present company with a Lenovo Thinkpad ($1300+ i should add), which promised perfect Linux support, but, even with that, it was awful. The touchpad was terrible and, after a few months, the OS began to freeze for no reason. I had to switch to a MacBook so I could have a stable development laptop - which is sad, because I've had plenty of Linux desktops that worked perfectly for many years. I'm surprised about Linux Mint though. Kubuntu, however, has always been flakey in my opinion ever since I first gave it a try in 2006 and other times since. - Hans On 2013-07-23, at 1:34 AM, Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Hans, > > this is taking a slight tangent, but I hope you will not mind me commenting > anyway. > > I love open source software. > > At the weekend, I installed Ubuntu 13.04 on an old slow laptop, it was ok, > but still slow. > > So then I installed Kubuntu, Mint 15 and and two others the name escapes > me, but they were also based on Ubuntu. > > None of the others picked up the wireless card correctly and Mint had some > video corruption issues. I just re-installed Ubuntu and all was ok. > > I was surprised that the Ubuntu derivatives did not work as well as the > full Ubuntu. > > Anyway, the machine is still a little slow, but it was dreadful when it had > Vista - at least it is working now. > > > > > > > On 23 July 2013 03:44, Hans-Christian Andersen <hans.andersen at phulse.com>wrote: > >> Eh, I dunno. I'm all for open source, but I don't personally think that, >> just because something is open source, you can implicitly trust them. >> >> Most linux distros have package managers that update your system from a >> central location (apt, yum, portage, etc) in binary format, so it's not >> like you can review system/software updates. You still have to trust what >> is being installed on your system is what it claims to be. You don't know >> if the distro maintainers aren't injecting something nasty into your >> software updates. And how many of us really review the source code of any >> open source application we install? Very few, I imagine (I don't). >> >> So, I go by a slightly modified trust system. I go for distros that are >> established and have a large community around it. Debian, for instance, is >> a perfect example. Debian is a community distro and is not controlled by >> any single entity, in the spirit of open source and GNU. >> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ap-manifesto.en.html >> >> - Hans >> >> >> >> On 2013-07-22, at 3:53 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: >> >>> Hi Martin: >>> >>> Its Open Source...anyone can view the code and can even, subsequently, >> download the source and recompile it on their own system. That is the thing >> with OSS projects, if there is any dodgy crap going on, it will be spotted >> in an instant. >>> >>> It not proprietary like iOS and Windows OS where no one knows what code >> is running in the background, how invasive it is or how many back-doors are >> available. With proprietary code you have to assume that the supplier >> always have your best interests at heart and will never advantage of your >> activities or data. It all renders down to a simple act of faith. >>> >>> So to answer your question, "Not at all." >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Martin Reid" <mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk> >>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < >> dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> >>> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 1:38:28 PM >>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Deepin Linux >>> >>> So you have no issue taking an OS developed by unknown people in China >> and installing it to run client business? >>> >>> Just curious >>> >>> Martin >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 22 Jul 2013, at 21:34, "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote: >>> >>>> "So easy a 60 year old can use it" would have been a better pitch. 12 >> y.o. >>>> can run anything. :) >>>> >>>> R >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim >> Lawrence >>>> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 1:30 PM >>>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >>>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Deepin Linux >>>> >>>> There is a new Linux distro out which has been receiving very high rated >>>> reviews called Deepin. >>>> >>>> It is a product the has been totally written in China by a bunch of >> geeks >>>> there. The attention to detail on this product is spectacular. It has >> been >>>> loosely described as a cross between Windows 7/8 and a Linux distro. >>>> >>>> >> http://planet.linuxdeepin.com/2013/06/19/linux-deepin-12-12-is-released/ >>>> >>>> According to reviewers it is excessively easy to use..."So Easy a >>>> 12-year-old Can Use It". Another plus, given that Ubuntu is one of the >>>> fastest desktops, Deepin in comparison is far faster...maybe the fastest >>>> distro of any type. >>>> >>>> This product will definitely reside in one of my virtual drives and if >> it >>>> stands up to previous billing, I will be looking for friends and >> businesses >>>> on which to install Deepin. >>>> >>>> Jim >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> dba-Tech mailing list >>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> dba-Tech mailing list >>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com