[dba-Tech] W7 in 2GB RAM

Rocky Smolin rockysmolin at bchacc.com
Mon Jul 29 00:01:30 CDT 2013


I'm just thinking how much longer it would take to run through 500MB of data
being transferred from an SD card or a USB drive, than doing the same thing
in RAM.  Or even swapping that 500MB of data into ram before iterating
through it.  

Is the SD card going to be any better than 2GB of HD space masquerading as
RAM?

R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 9:39 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 in 2GB RAM

You could turn off indexing?

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 8:57:06 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 in 2GB RAM

Isn't the data transfer rate really slow though? So slow that the thrashing
would still be greater than the advantage from the additional (virtual) RAM?

R


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 7:38 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 in 2GB RAM

Good point about the external memory. According to one review that I saw,
the Dell 3100 has a built in Card Reader, so you could stick a SD Card in it
for Ready Boost.


On 28 Jul 2013 at 20:33, John R Bartow wrote:

> I think you should be OK with 2GB. Won't be a speed demon but will work.
The
> big chains were selling cheap machines with 2gb RAM when 7 was first 
> released. Also remember that Windows 7 can use an external USB memory
stick
> to boost RAM.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin
> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 3:34 PM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 in 2GB RAM
> 
> The comps I have here that I could give him are all 2GB RAM limited - 
> by hardware.
> 
> R
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim 
> Lawrence
> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 10:03 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 in 2GB RAM
> 
> Note, that it does also depend on what your hardware's (and Windows) 
> capability is.
> 
> I think the absolute maximum is 3GB, even though most articles state 
> 4GB
on
> a 32 bit system but not on all...some pieces of hardware only allow 
> the addressing of 2GB for a 32 bit OS...so you would have to check 
> with the motherboard supplier. You have to go to a 64 bit hardware to 
> be able to
use
> more RAM.
> 
>
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_vista-performance/3
> 2-bit-operating-system-4gb-ram-limit/6c1b942e-d1cd-4ef5-bb93-388be8b5a
> 049
> 
> Aside: On a Linux box you will have install a Physical Address 
> Extension
> (PAE) patch for the kernel and I have heard that as much as 16 GB of 
> RAM
can
> be addressed on a 32 bit system after that.
> 
> Jim
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 10:36:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 in 2GB RAM
> 
> Maxes out at 2GB.  I've got 3-4 machines here like that.  I wanted to 
> give one to a cousin but he needs to move up to W7.
> 
> R
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 6:16 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues; 'Off Topic'
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] W7 in 2GB RAM
> 
> >From the horses mouth:
> 
> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/system-requiremen
> ts
> 
> If you want to run Windows 7 on your PC, here's what it takes:
>     1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
>     1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit)
>     16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)
>     DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver
> 
> Second question;
> 
> It should be fine to run Wordpad, Calc etc it you don't have any AV or
other
> applications running in the background.
> 
> Try to run something like an Office 2010 application and you will be 
> thrashing the hard drive constantly.
> 
> Are you sure that you can't replace the current memory with  2 x 2GB
chips? 
> 
> --
> Stuart
> 
> On 27 Jul 2013 at 16:37, Rocky Smolin wrote:
> 
> > Can you run W7 in 2GB RAM?  I have a Dell Dimension 3100 - has a P$ 
> > at
> > 3+GHz but which maxes out at 2GB.  Running WXP.  Will it run
> > unacceptable slowly with only 2GB RAM?
> >  
> > TIA
> >  
> > Rocky
> >  
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