Bill Patten
bill_patten at embarqmail.com
Wed Jun 12 00:15:18 CDT 2013
Hi Arthur, I don't understand the loathing of the window's 8 screen, it's really designed for touch hence the large buttons. If you don’t have a touch screen then just use the desktop. Before I'd go to the trouble of installing Win7 click on the button labeled desk top a windows 7 screen with out the start button will appear. I just added short cuts to my screen then right click and pin them to the task bar. One feature better then the start menu is to move the mouse (In the desktop mode) to the lower left hand corner and a short cut to the Windows 8 Appears. Right click on it and a menu pops up that has many of the feature you might want like control panel task manager, event viewer etc. One other cool feature is to when on the windows 8 screen and start typing like "windows defender" (or any other program you know the name of) and as you type icons appear on the screen and when you see the one you want click on it. Yes it's different and yes MS could have given a choice of where you want it to open and yes they did not have to remove the start menu but it takes one click to click on the desktop icon (I moved mine to the upper left corner so I don't have to look for it) but recently learned pushing esc. take you to the desk top. Place shortcuts on it, pin them on the task bar and it works. Be brave, give it a try, you or your sister may never like it then again as more and more people get and want tablets your ready. By the way I have a Surface Pro and love it. I only use one Windows 8 application (USA today) but I have Access 2007, VS 2010 SQL Server 2008 (Express) that syncs with my Main SQL server and most other tools that I use. the surface has Hyper-V in it so I have an XP VM on a USB drive so I can recompile Access programs that won't run on 32 bit machines if compiled in a 64 bit environment. No I would not recommend that package for development but it cool when traveling and I want help a client. I'm not in love with WIN 8 but I sure don't hate it. HTH Bill Here are a list of easy short cuts one could learn if they want to, give them try it might surprise you.. To label groups push - in bottom right and the groups will shrink Right click on a group to name them. All groups appear to have at least 2 columns to reduce the size move enough to other groups to reduce by 2 columns. If you learn just three hotkeys, learn: •Win+W - Search Control Panel and Settings stuff •Win+F - Search Files •Esc - Yes, escape. No joke. If you hit the Windows Key, you can hit Escape to go back. (Does not appear to work on first start up but once you've gone to the desktop ESC will take you back.) Once you have those, add these: •Win+C - Charms (right side menu) then arrows to move and enter to launch. •Win+K - Devices •Win+I - Settings in any app plus brightness, network and other useful system features •Win+Arrows - Snap desktop apps to the sides •Win+(period) - Alternate sides to "snap" Metro Apps. Add shift to reverse it. •Win-X - Admin Stuff. I'm mentioning it twice because it's THAT useful. •Win+PageUp or Win+PageDn - Move full screen apps to other monitors. Super useful for News apps and Readers. The Start Screen can be moved as well. them to the -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 9:10 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Skeuomorphic UIs are dead? Apple to follow MS Win8UI design principles with iOS7? Time to ask for help. How can I best revert my sister's laptop back to Windows 7? I have an installation disk and she has no data on her disc worth keeping, other than possibly the list of her favorite web sites. She does everything else in the cloud. I'm guessing that I could cold-boot the laptop with my Win7 OEM disc or several Windoes-repair discs, then format/erase the disc and then install Windows Home and then re-install everything. But I have read about various methods of restoring a W8 box to a W7 look. I hate the tiles. Complaint #1: why are the tiles so huge? (Which is kind of bizarre since my eyes are failing, due to my age, but still, the trad Win7 desktop looks way better IMHO.) I want a Start Button and taskbar back.I vaguely recall reading about some software than can do that to Win8. I guess that this new UI appeals to some people, but I and more importantly my friend whose fancy Dell laptop currently resides on my desk, object profoundly, So, here is the situation in brief. It's a brand-new Dell with Windows 8 installed. I want to fry the disk and then install Windows 7 (She;s afraid to move to Ubuntu; I can't imagine why, since her use of various apps other than word-processing and email is almost nil, but that is another discussion, but I will say before departing this subject that if that's the extent of your computer usage, why the hell would you stick with Windows? This makes no sense to me at all. However, she is my best friend and so I must take my footsteps carefully, so as not to ruffle feathers. The bottom line is this: she has a fancy new Dell laptop whose boot OS is Windows 8. She wishes to change that. Our alternatives, as I see them, are these: a) fry the drive and then boot from my Win7 OEM disk and install. b) try a dual-boot installation. c) install Ubuntu and implicently fry the drive, which contains no data worth preserving,] Given her extremely small list of necessities (email, docs and photos), I can see no justification for sticking with Windows. My recommendation is to fry the disc and switch to either Mint or Ubuntu. I don't mean to slight the offerings by RedHat, which is pretty clearly offered to professionals not amateurs. In summary: I would like to fry the current OS installation and introduce a another, Linux-based one such as Ubuntu. I would also like to undo everything that I did in Step 1, should disasters occur. She has virtually nothing of personal value on her laptop, except her email and its treacking record, so it is perfectly ok to fry the drive and start from Square One. She even has the original Install Disk and I have the printed User Guide in hand. There is no data worth saving. So, how should I proceed? Without a little expert advice, I am ill-prepared to proceed. But that's why I so value this newsgroup.I am 110 % confident that someone here can guide me to a solution. A On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Hans-Christian Andersen < hans.andersen at phulse.com> wrote: > You speak the truth. I can't even name a single person I know who runs > Windows 8 even. Only one guy at work who has it in virtual machine and he > dislikes it. To be fair though, he's a Linux geek. > > - Hans > > > On 2013-06-11, at 8:51 AM, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: > > > Hi Hans: > > > > The whole problem with the Metro UI was that it was installed on the PC. > That was not the environment for it. Phone definitely and tablet maybe but > not the PC. > > > > IMHO one UI for everything is just plain silly. Most users of Windows8, > just switch to the old UI and continue working which just makes Metro a > waste as far as a PC is concerned. > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto: > dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hans-Christian > Andersen > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:16 AM > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Skeuomorphic UIs are dead? Apple to follow MS > Win8UI design principles with iOS7? > > > > I think you are disregarding the fact that Metro has been a failure for > Microsoft, because it was too much of a change for users to adapt to. > Someone got fired for that, if you recall. > > > > Also, the UI/UX of iOS is in the complete control of a designer. > > > > The jury is still very much out - even more so than ever. > > > > - Hans > > > > > > On 2013-06-11, at 1:05 AM, "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote: > > > >> Hi Shamil > >> > >> Skeuomorphism sure looks dead. And thanks for that. > >> > >> After the introduction of Metro/Modern UI, I was convinced that in a > few years skeuomorphism would be so much yesterday. > >> The new design of iOS settles this. > >> > >> Now the Linux people are the left behinds ... > >> > >> /gustav > >> > >> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > >> Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto: > dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] På vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil > >> Sendt: 11. juni 2013 08:54 > >> Til: Discussion of Hardware and Softw > >> Emne: [dba-Tech] Skeuomorphic UIs are dead? Apple to follow MS Win8 UI > design principles with iOS7? > >> > >> > >> Hi All -- > >> > >> See subj questions and the following links: > >> > >> http://techcrunch.com/2013/06/10/apple-ios-7/ > >> > >> > http://techcrunch.com/2013/06/10/take-a-good-look-at-apples-new-ios-7-with-these-early-screenshots/ > >> > >> > http://techcrunch.com/2013/06/10/apples-flashlight-is-why-we-cant-fund-nice-dumb-things/ > >> > >> etc. > >> > >> it looks like iOS7 is preparing for iOS8 to get running transparently > on "Apple Pince-nez"?... > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Салахетдинов Шамиль > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> dba-Tech mailing list > >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur Cell: 647.710.1314 Prediction is difficult, especially of the future. -- Niels Bohr _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com