[dba-Tech] Your own personal Cloud

Hans-Christian Andersen hans.andersen at phulse.com
Sat Mar 9 14:44:29 CST 2013


Hi mark,

Freenas is definitely a great option.

The big benefit here would be speed and also the ability to build a raided system. Because the pogoplug takes USB drives as storage, you don't get raid options and its only as fast as USB allows (although USB 3.0 is quite fast). Also, freenas features zfs, arguably the most advanced file system there is. And, since its a FreeBSD setup, you have much more flexibility is shaping the kind of setup you want.

The downside is that freenas doesn't really provide you the same sort of "cloud" features you get with the pogoplug. And you have to build your own machine to host it, making the pogoplug a much cheaper option.

Give and take. If I fancied building a whole new server and didn't mind sinking a bit of money into it, I would most definitely go for freenas and figure out a way to get access to my files on the fly. Also, the machine would have to be low powered, but it would be hard to build a server that only consumes 5 watts.

As it is, the pogoplug was cheap and fit my needs and I didn't have to invest much time into it. It's not my primary network drive. It's more of a miscellaneous network folder. My TimeMachine is my primary backup machine (so I don't have to even think about backing up my files, it does it automagically). Otherwise, my computers are the primary storage devices and I copy things on my pogoplug when I need to.

I might buy a raspberry pi one of these days and put own cloud on it perhaps, so it might end up replacing it, but I have very little time to play with gadgets these days. :)

- Hans


On 2013-03-09, at 10:59 AM, Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Hans,
> 
> Very interesting,
> 
> I have been considering building a FreeNas box for a while, and using
> internal disks,
> 
> I even have a machine built with one 256GB SSD disk with a PSU with no fan,
> IOW a silent PC.  I intended to use the Free Nas as my storage for another
> room in the house.
> 
> Lots of options :)
> 
> thanks
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> On 9 March 2013 17:49, Hans-Christian Andersen <hans.andersen at phulse.com>wrote:
> 
>> Oh, just to add to my previous email, since I use the home storage device
>> option, I haven't had much need for their cloud storage version, so I can't
>> speak to how well it performs or whether unlimited is indeed unlimited. I'd
>> check the TOS for the fine print, but I imagine they are true to their word.
>> 
>> - Hans
>> 
>> 
>> On 2013-03-09, at 4:53 AM, Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Hans,
>>> 
>>> thats fantastic, I looked but completely missed the client software,
>> which
>>> is of course what I need.
>>> 
>>> May I ask you advice about storage.  I have one drive with almost a
>>> terabyte of data.  My upload speed is slow, but excluding upload speed,
>> do
>>> you think I could upload a terabyte ?  Do you have any idea what your
>> total
>>> storage use is ?  I know that pogoplug say it is unlimited, but I wonder
>>> about pointing to my folder named "FileServer"
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8 March 2013 15:16, Hans-Christian Andersen <hans.andersen at phulse.com
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>> 
>>>> My pogoplug mounts its drive like an ordinary local drive. I use it for
>> 3
>>>> reasons primarily:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. File storage in a shared location. I can now access these files from
>>>> any machine any where in the world.
>>>> 
>>>> 2 File sharing. Need to send a very big file to someone or a photo
>> album?
>>>> You can just share it directly from the pogoplug in terms of a web link.
>>>> It's also easy to manage what things you've shared.
>>>> 
>>>> 3. DNLA. The pogoplug device supports dnla, so it appears as a media
>>>> server on the network and so your media box, like my playstation3 picks
>> up
>>>> its presence and let's me stream movies, pictures and music from it.
>>>> 
>>>> - Hans
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2013-03-08, at 2:06 AM, Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Hans,
>>>>> 
>>>>> On the basis that 1) you have to drag and drop and 2) you cannot drag
>>>>> folders, what do you use Pogoplug for ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 8 March 2013 00:48, Hans-Christian Andersen <
>> hans.andersen at phulse.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Looks like owncloud has progressed a bit since last i checked. I'll
>> try
>>>> it
>>>>>> out on a vm and, if its stable, might throw it on my server. I'm
>>>> otherwise
>>>>>> quite content with my pogoplug though.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Hans
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2013-03-07, at 4:38 PM, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you are on a budget, have your own business, intranet, want to
>> have
>>>> a
>>>>>>> secure and reliable Cloud (and that doesn't necessarily mean being
>>>>>>> financially tied Amazon, Microsoft and others, never knowing if your
>>>>>> backups
>>>>>>> have been done or the site is being maintained)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So why not build your own for family, friends and/or business. Here
>> is
>>>> a
>>>>>>> very viable option that you can design on your own equipment:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://owncloud.org/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Check out the features and the control you will have. :-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And why not install it on your Debian/Ubuntu servers/stations:
>> http://smashingweb.info/owncloud-4-released-install-owncloud-on-ubuntu-12-04
>>>>>>> /
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Terminal alert: You are going to have to key in a few lines on the
>>>>>> terminal
>>>>>>> (command line interface) But Alt-Ctrl-T, cut and paste from the web
>>>> site
>>>>>>> should be as hard as it gets.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Note you will need Apache, MySQL and PHP5 for the base setup. Though
>>>> the
>>>>>>> install from the website might be very straight forward it might be
>>>> best
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> take no chances and previously install the latest greatest versions
>> of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> pre-requisites:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install taskel
>>>>>>> sudo taskel install lamp-server
>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install php5-curl
>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install php5-gd
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Now you are good to start with the suggested installation method and
>> if
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> are using the Ubuntu 12.04 Linux.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Oh yes and most important. You have clients for Windows and Mac as
>> well
>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> Linux...and for the cherry on the cake...the clients runs on all your
>>>>>>> mobiles too.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>> 
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