[dba-Tech] A new compiled JavaScript?

Hi Shamil:

So which products would you suggest would be a good alternative to Skype?

Jim

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Shamil
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 Hi Jim --

<<<
Both are becoming more untrustworthy but the day.
>>>
Yes.

<<<
I understand it is a big problem in Russia. 
>>>
Well, one there might suppose that everything is a big problem here :) 
I assure you - it's not - quite a few but not everything:)
BTW, quite some foreigners are working and are living here in Russia.

Easy solution for the 'Skype case': Just ignore it - there are many other
communication tools free from 'KGB eye and ear'. :)

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Вторник, 19 марта 2013, 19:12 -07:00 от "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Shamil:
>
>An aside: I have always been a little apprehensive of either Microsoft's or
>Google's commitment to any type of programming environment as they may pull
>support at a moments notice for any number of reasons.
>
><rant on>
>They sometimes just create an application for training purposes of their
>staff, or because of some GPL licensing agreement, or to muddy the waters
of
>another competitor, or on some wild prospecting adventure. Then they may
>just pull or drop the program as it may be challenging their high-end
>products, or they loose interest, or a application no longer fits their new
>model. 
>
>That is why, no matter how interested I am in any application that either
>make; I always find myself looking for a quick exit if or when they bale,
>yet again.
>
>Didn't Microsoft just announce they are removing messenger capabilities
from
>Skype, I guess to many were using it instead of their other Messenger. Then
>they are dropping Windows 8 support from their phones, just like
>Silverlight. Google has just dropped Google Docs and RSS feeds for anyone
>but their paying customers...Most of Google translation functionality has
>gone. Google has been making great strides designing on top of open GPL
>products and now is trying apply charges to their efforts.
>
>Then Microsoft has been censured because they have left an backdoor into
>their Skype that any government can use...I understand it is a big problem
>in Russia. Then the ECM is threatening to out right ban Google's Glass
>project unless they will absolutely guarantee privacy for the users.
>
>Both are becoming more untrustworthy but the day.
><rant off>
>
>It is now so hard to know which way to go in product development.
>
>Jim 
>
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>Shamil
>Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 2:17 PM
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>
> Hi Jim --
>
>Thank you for your link.
>
>Concerning your question: "No, I haven't worked with DART."
>
>Quick googling gives:
>
>Douglas Crockford, when asked about Dart during his Programming Style and
>Your Brain lecture, replied: "So, I've thought for a long time ... if I
>could take a clean sheet of paper and write [a new language] that retains
>all the goodness of [Javascript] ... I would not have come up with anything
>like Dart."  (Source:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dart_ (programming_language ) ) Resume: if not
>pure JavaScript (with jQuery etc.) then go TypeScript (
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TypeScript ) not DART. :)
>
>Thank you.
>
>-- Shamil
>
>
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