[dba-Tech] A new compiled JavaScript?

Hans-Christian Andersen hans.andersen at phulse.com
Wed Mar 20 11:40:51 CDT 2013


Are you sure you aren't thinking of Google Apps for Domains? As far as I'm aware, Google Docs is still free and available, although it has been repackaged as "Google Drive".

- Hans


On 2013-03-20, at 9:22 AM, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Hans:
> 
> Google did not drop Google Docs just the free access to it.
> 
> My bad; Microsoft Messenger as a stand alone will be removed but left in
> Skype. (But note: there are rumoured plans of moving Skype to a fully paid
> model...whether this is true, I have no idea.)
> 
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hans-Christian
> Andersen
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 8:03 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new compiled JavaScript?
> 
> 
>> Didn't Microsoft just announce they are removing messenger capabilities
> from Skype
> 
>> Google has just dropped Google Docs
> 
> Wait... when did this happen? I haven't heard of this.
> 
> - Hans
> 
> 
> On 2013-03-19, at 7:12 PM, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Shamil:
>> 
>> An aside: I have always been a little apprehensive of either Microsoft's
> or
>> Google's commitment to any type of programming environment as they may
> pull
>> support at a moments notice for any number of reasons.
>> 
>> <rant on>
>> They sometimes just create an application for training purposes of their
>> staff, or because of some GPL licensing agreement, or to muddy the waters
> of
>> another competitor, or on some wild prospecting adventure. Then they may
>> just pull or drop the program as it may be challenging their high-end
>> products, or they loose interest, or a application no longer fits their
> new
>> model. 
>> 
>> That is why, no matter how interested I am in any application that either
>> make; I always find myself looking for a quick exit if or when they bale,
>> yet again.
>> 
>> Didn't Microsoft just announce they are removing messenger capabilities
> from
>> Skype, I guess to many were using it instead of their other Messenger.
> Then
>> they are dropping Windows 8 support from their phones, just like
>> Silverlight. Google has just dropped Google Docs and RSS feeds for anyone
>> but their paying customers...Most of Google translation functionality has
>> gone. Google has been making great strides designing on top of open GPL
>> products and now is trying apply charges to their efforts.
>> 
>> Then Microsoft has been censured because they have left an backdoor into
>> their Skype that any government can use...I understand it is a big problem
>> in Russia. Then the ECM is threatening to out right ban Google's Glass
>> project unless they will absolutely guarantee privacy for the users.
>> 
>> Both are becoming more untrustworthy but the day.
>> <rant off>
>> 
>> It is now so hard to know which way to go in product development.
>> 
>> Jim 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov
>> Shamil
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 2:17 PM
>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new compiled JavaScript?
>> 
>> Hi Jim --
>> 
>> Thank you for your link.
>> 
>> Concerning your question: "No, I haven't worked with DART."
>> 
>> Quick googling gives:
>> 
>> Douglas Crockford, when asked about Dart during his Programming Style and
>> Your Brain lecture, replied: "So, I've thought for a long time ... if I
>> could take a clean sheet of paper and write [a new language] that retains
>> all the goodness of [Javascript] ... I would not have come up with
> anything
>> like Dart."  (Source:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dart_(programming_language ) ) Resume: if not
>> pure JavaScript (with jQuery etc.) then go TypeScript (
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TypeScript ) not DART. :)
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> -- Shamil
>> 
>> 
>> Вторник, 19 марта 2013, 11:15 -07:00 от "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>>> Hi All:
>>> 
>>> Has anyone seen or worked with the Dart product? It looks interesting in
>>> that it allows a developer to design in a structured language and then it
>>> compiles to standard HTML5 JavaScript code.
>>> 
>>> http://www.dartlang.org/
>>> 
>>> Jim 
>>> 
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