[dba-Tech] The latest Debian

Salakhetdinov Shamil mcp2004 at mail.ru
Sun May 12 07:02:17 CDT 2013


Hi Hans --

Not at all. But may I ask you did you read the whole article you have referred here?

Thank you.
-- Shamil

Воскресенье, 12 мая 2013, 1:32 -07:00 от Hans-Christian Andersen <hans.andersen at phulse.com>:
> The words of a man who just realised he's possibly in big trouble :p
> 
> Best regards,
> Hans-Christian Andersen
> 
> 
> On 12 May 2013, at 00:01, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Jim,
> > 
> > But did you read all the text of the article Hans referenced? 
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > 
> > -- Shamil
> > 
> > Суббота, 11 мая 2013, 15:15 -07:00 от "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>:
> >> Hi Hans:
> >> 
> >> The comments from an insider. Nothing that everyone could not all ready see
> >> but now a confirmation. At one point the developers, left, will all have to
> >> move on, unless the whole upper management of Microsoft can be convinced to
> >> move on.
> >> 
> >> MS may have to be virtually wiped out before it can grow again.
> >> 
> >> Jim 
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hans-Christian
> >> Andersen
> >> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:52 PM
> >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The latest Debian
> >> 
> >> Fun fact: Debian, on its own (excluding Debian based OSs like Ubuntu), is
> >> the most widely used operating system in the server market.
> >> 
> >> Here's another interested article with an admission from a Windows kernel
> >> developer about why the Windows is slower and falling behind other
> operating
> >> systems like Linux: http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=74
> >> 
> >> - Hans
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 2013-05-11, at 11:04 AM, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> The latest Debian is here...Debian 7.
> >>> 
> >>> With this release, Google has removing its old OS and now is actively
> >>> porting all it Cloud to Debian. Debian is now using the latest Linux
> >> core(?)
> >>> which allows it to run on most of the major hardware architectures, all 32
> >>> and 64 bit Intel chips as well as on ARM, PowerPC, Itanium, IBM S/390 and
> >> so
> >>> on. 
> >>> 
> >>> Debian is not really a PC OS but a true server but it does come with a
> >> nice
> >>> little GUI (distro) called Xfce though most "real men and women" in the
> >>> computer industry still prefer the command line interface. 
> >>> 
> >>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/08/debian_seven_review/
> >>> 
> >>> Of course you can still get all the reliability and functionality through
> >>> the Ubuntu and Mint distros which do tend to use more of the leading edge
> >>> (bleeding edge?) versions of Debian. Ubuntu, for example is really a full
> >>> blown server with a pretty interface and if ever needed, this PC desktop
> >>> could step up run the entire network, limited of course only by the
> >>> hardware. (The latest Ubuntu version 13.04, has been described as very
> >> fast
> >>> but boring...if you are a support tech you need more boring.)
> >>> 
> >>> According to some developers Exchange mail server, at least version 2010
> >> and
> >>> less, can runs fine on Debian but the 2012 version still requires some
> >>> tweaks. The new Samba server completely replaces Active-directory.
> >> Finally,
> >>> MS SQL 2012 runs and is fully compatible on Linux. 
> >>> 
> >>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh568451.aspx
> >>> 
> >>> It looks like there is now less and less reasons to not migrate your
> >> servers
> >>> to Linux and Debian in particular. So why would you change if you have
> >>> already have a Windows Server system?
> >>> 
> >>> Answer: First, Linux runs up to three times as fast, can support almost a
> >>> dozen times more clients than a similar configured MS server version
> >> (using
> >>> the same hardware) and takes only a fifth of the space. Second, the
> >>> innovation on the Linux platforms are years ahead compared to MS (Example:
> >>> Debian uses, by default, a disk OS, that is faster (reading and writing),
> >>> with built in duplication and is self-healing but of course you can always
> >>> install the ZFS disk OS if you are planning a thousand server network).
> >>> Third, Linux (Debian) is rock solid reliable; no blue screens or software
> >>> crashes. Fourth, security on Linux servers have been the absolute best.
> >>> Fifth, and perhaps the least important, the initial product costs are
> >> zero,
> >>> but of course, tech support fees (your fees) are just the same.    
> >>> 
> >>> So why are you still installing Windows servers? ;-)
> >>> 
> >>> Jim
> >>> 
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