[dba-Tech] The latest Debian

Salakhetdinov Shamil mcp2004 at mail.ru
Mon May 13 15:45:24 CDT 2013


Both.

-- Shamil

Воскресенье, 12 мая 2013, 15:14 -07:00 от Hans-Christian Andersen <hans.andersen at phulse.com>:
> 
> So which one is the fake then?
> 
> - Hans
> 
> 
> On 2013-05-12, at 1:55 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru> wrote:
> 
> > Yes, Hans, I did and I have got an impression this article is a fake. And I
> see a comment to that article which states: "It’s worth point out as well that
> the “follow up” is written in an entirely different style of verbatim. The
> vocabulary, structure, word frequencies, and the form and structure of the
> prose are all different. I’m almost certain that the author is not the same
> person."
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > -- Shamil
> > 
> > Воскресенье, 12 мая 2013, 9:28 -07:00 от Hans-Christian Andersen
> <hans.andersen at phulse.com>:
> >> Yes, although I haven't read all the comments. How about you? Did you read
> the
> >> whole article?
> >> 
> >> - Hans
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 2013-05-12, at 5:02 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Hi Hans --
> >>> 
> >>> Not at all. But may I ask you did you read the whole article you have
> >> referred here?
> >>> 
> >>> Thank you.
> >>> -- Shamil
> >>> 
> >>> Воскресенье, 12 мая 2013, 1:32 -07:00 от Hans-Christian Andersen
> >> <hans.andersen at phulse.com>:
> >>>> The words of a man who just realised he's possibly in big trouble :p
> >>>> 
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>> Hans-Christian Andersen
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On 12 May 2013, at 00:01, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Hi Jim,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> But did you read all the text of the article Hans referenced? 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Thank you.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> -- Shamil
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Суббота, 11 мая 2013, 15:15 -07:00 от "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>:
> >>>>>> Hi Hans:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> The comments from an insider. Nothing that everyone could not all ready
> >> see
> >>>>>> but now a confirmation. At one point the developers, left, will all
> have
> >> to
> >>>>>> move on, unless the whole upper management of Microsoft can be
> convinced
> >> to
> >>>>>> move on.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> MS may have to be virtually wiped out before it can grow again.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Jim 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >>>>>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Hans-Christian
> >>>>>> Andersen
> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:52 PM
> >>>>>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] The latest Debian
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Fun fact: Debian, on its own (excluding Debian based OSs like Ubuntu),
> is
> >>>>>> the most widely used operating system in the server market.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Here's another interested article with an admission from a Windows
> kernel
> >>>>>> developer about why the Windows is slower and falling behind other
> >>>> operating
> >>>>>> systems like Linux: http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=74
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> - Hans
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> On 2013-05-11, at 11:04 AM, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> The latest Debian is here...Debian 7.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> With this release, Google has removing its old OS and now is actively
> >>>>>>> porting all it Cloud to Debian. Debian is now using the latest Linux
> >>>>>> core(?)
> >>>>>>> which allows it to run on most of the major hardware architectures,
> all
> >> 32
> >>>>>>> and 64 bit Intel chips as well as on ARM, PowerPC, Itanium, IBM S/390
> >> and
> >>>>>> so
> >>>>>>> on. 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Debian is not really a PC OS but a true server but it does come with a
> >>>>>> nice
> >>>>>>> little GUI (distro) called Xfce though most "real men and women" in
> the
> >>>>>>> computer industry still prefer the command line interface. 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/08/debian_seven_review/
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Of course you can still get all the reliability and functionality
> >> through
> >>>>>>> the Ubuntu and Mint distros which do tend to use more of the leading
> >> edge
> >>>>>>> (bleeding edge?) versions of Debian. Ubuntu, for example is really a
> >> full
> >>>>>>> blown server with a pretty interface and if ever needed, this PC
> desktop
> >>>>>>> could step up run the entire network, limited of course only by the
> >>>>>>> hardware. (The latest Ubuntu version 13.04, has been described as very
> >>>>>> fast
> >>>>>>> but boring...if you are a support tech you need more boring.)
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> According to some developers Exchange mail server, at least version
> 2010
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> less, can runs fine on Debian but the 2012 version still requires some
> >>>>>>> tweaks. The new Samba server completely replaces Active-directory.
> >>>>>> Finally,
> >>>>>>> MS SQL 2012 runs and is fully compatible on Linux. 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh568451.aspx
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> It looks like there is now less and less reasons to not migrate your
> >>>>>> servers
> >>>>>>> to Linux and Debian in particular. So why would you change if you have
> >>>>>>> already have a Windows Server system?
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Answer: First, Linux runs up to three times as fast, can support
> almost
> >> a
> >>>>>>> dozen times more clients than a similar configured MS server version
> >>>>>> (using
> >>>>>>> the same hardware) and takes only a fifth of the space. Second, the
> >>>>>>> innovation on the Linux platforms are years ahead compared to MS
> >> (Example:
> >>>>>>> Debian uses, by default, a disk OS, that is faster (reading and
> >> writing),
> >>>>>>> with built in duplication and is self-healing but of course you can
> >> always
> >>>>>>> install the ZFS disk OS if you are planning a thousand server
> network).
> >>>>>>> Third, Linux (Debian) is rock solid reliable; no blue screens or
> >> software
> >>>>>>> crashes. Fourth, security on Linux servers have been the absolute
> best.
> >>>>>>> Fifth, and perhaps the least important, the initial product costs are
> >>>>>> zero,
> >>>>>>> but of course, tech support fees (your fees) are just the same.    
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> So why are you still installing Windows servers? ;-)
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Jim
> >>>>>>> 
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