Hans-Christian Andersen
hans.andersen at phulse.com
Sun May 26 17:16:13 CDT 2013
I wouldn't generally consider the daughter of a programmer an ordinary user... But perhaps she's afraid to mention anything? ;) - Hans On 2013-05-26, at 2:42 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru> wrote: > Sorry, Hans, > > My daughter, who is working as a clerk/assistant in a large retail net here, is a kind of an ordinary users you probably mean: she has recently got a new laptop with Win8 and I haven't heard from her *any* complaints, and I haven't seen her being frustrated while working with Win8... > > Thank you. > > -- Shamil > > > Sunday, May 26, 2013 2:33 PM -07:00 from Hans-Christian Andersen <hans.andersen at phulse.com>: >> Maybe you've lost touch with ordinary users? We are talking about users whose only means of remembering keyboard shortcuts and passwords is if its written down on a post it note and stuck to their screen. They didn't ask for this change and its totally understandable that they are frustrated that it is forced upon them. >> >> To be honest, this is exactly what I expected to happen the minute i tried the win8 release candidate. If it was frustrating for even a tech person like myself, it was bound to be a disaster. >> >> - Hans >> >> >> On 2013-05-26, at 12:05 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote: >> >>> Hi Jim -- >>> >>> I can understand folks who do not want to upgrade to Win8 because of inertia, luck of money, so many bad reviews posted everywhere on Win8 but I can't get what "feeling of frustration" forces folks getting Win8 preinstalled to make their systems downgraded to Win7, do you? >>> >>> I mean if they dislike/do not need to work in Win8 UI mode they can use [WindowsKey] + D to get into Windows classic desktop mode, put some frequently used programs short-cuts on desktop or just use [WindowsKey]+R to start programs by typing their executable file name /full path etc. - it's all very similar to Win7 ... >>> >>> -- Shamil >>> >>> Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:40 AM -07:00 from "Jim Lawrence" < accessd at shaw.ca >: >>>> Hi Shamil: >>>> >>>> I will partially agree with you. >>>> >>>> Aside: I do not think Arthur has any particular "axe to grind" when it comes >>>> to Win8 but I sense a very strong feeling of frustration, especially coming >>>> from his client's acceptance of Microsoft's latest offering and he is just >>>> reflecting their opinions. >>>> >>>> It appears that Microsoft has done fine job on their Windows 8 phones and >>>> everyone who has one likes it. This does not mean that I will run out and >>>> buy anything other than an Android phone. (I do not dislike iPods either but >>>> prices and features are everything.) >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, the Microsoft way of force feeding the public, through >>>> pre-loaded platforms, its Windows 8 desktop product is hardly an indication >>>> the OS's acceptance or rejection. >>>> >>>> If a customer, when buying a PC, tablet or Phone, could at the moment of >>>> purchase, select their OS, a much more accurate view of audience preference >>>> could be established. Given a level playing field, I would suspect, sales of >>>> MS's desktop version would go down, tablet sales would go up and phone sales >>>> would stay the same. >>>> >>>> Jim >>> <<< skipped >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com