[dba-Tech] Windows 8: Not!

Jim Lawrence accessd at shaw.ca
Sun May 26 21:33:12 CDT 2013


Hi Shamil:

The daughter of one of the best programmer developers, I know, has no
problem? Trust me it is in the genes and it really comes as no surprise.

I would bet she could probably install a full Linux network, from the
command prompt, in an afternoon, if she ever wanted to.

We are talking old guys here who probably took a couple of days to figure
out how to use a mouse and they use two or maybe three fingers to type with.
Why do you think most lawyers and business managers have a secretary? 

Jim

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov
Shamil
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 2:42 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 8: Not!

 Sorry, Hans,

My daughter, who is working as a clerk/assistant in a large retail net here,
is a kind of an ordinary users you probably mean: she has recently got a new
laptop with Win8 and I haven't heard from her *any* complaints, and I
haven't seen her being frustrated while working with Win8...

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Sunday, May 26, 2013 2:33 PM -07:00 from Hans-Christian Andersen
<hans.andersen at phulse.com>:
>Maybe you've lost touch with ordinary users? We are talking about users
whose only means of remembering keyboard shortcuts and passwords is if its
written down on a post it note and stuck to their screen. They didn't ask
for this change and its totally understandable that they are frustrated that
it is forced upon them.
>
>To be honest, this is exactly what I expected to happen the minute i tried
the win8 release candidate. If it was frustrating for even a tech person
like myself, it was bound to be a disaster.
>
>- Hans
>
>
>On 2013-05-26, at 12:05 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote:
>
>> Hi Jim --
>> 
>> I can understand folks who do not want to upgrade to Win8 because of
inertia, luck of money, so many bad reviews posted everywhere on Win8 but  I
can't get what "feeling of frustration" forces folks getting Win8
preinstalled to make their systems downgraded to Win7, do you?
>> 
>> I mean if they dislike/do not need to work in Win8 UI mode they can use
[WindowsKey] + D to get into Windows classic desktop mode,  put some
frequently used programs short-cuts on desktop or just use [WindowsKey]+R to
start programs by typing their executable file name /full path etc. - it's
all very similar to Win7 ...
>> 
>> -- Shamil
>> 
>> Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:40 AM -07:00 from "Jim Lawrence" < accessd at shaw.ca
>:
>>> Hi Shamil:
>>> 
>>> I will partially agree with you. 
>>> 
>>> Aside: I do not think Arthur has any particular "axe to grind" when it
comes
>>> to Win8 but I sense a very strong feeling of frustration, especially
coming
>>> from his client's acceptance of Microsoft's latest offering and he is
just
>>> reflecting their opinions.
>>> 
>>> It appears that Microsoft has done fine job on their Windows 8 phones
and
>>> everyone who has one likes it. This does not mean that I will run out
and
>>> buy anything other than an Android phone. (I do not dislike iPods either
but
>>> prices and features are everything.)
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, the Microsoft way of force feeding the public, through
>>> pre-loaded platforms, its Windows 8 desktop product is hardly an
indication
>>> the OS's acceptance or rejection. 
>>> 
>>> If a customer, when buying a PC, tablet or Phone, could at the moment of
>>> purchase, select their OS, a much more accurate view of audience
preference
>>> could be established. Given a level playing field, I would suspect,
sales of
>>> MS's desktop version would go down, tablet sales would go up and phone
sales
>>> would stay the same.
>>> 
>>> Jim 
>> <<< skipped >>>
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