Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Sun May 26 21:33:12 CDT 2013
Hi Shamil: The daughter of one of the best programmer developers, I know, has no problem? Trust me it is in the genes and it really comes as no surprise. I would bet she could probably install a full Linux network, from the command prompt, in an afternoon, if she ever wanted to. We are talking old guys here who probably took a couple of days to figure out how to use a mouse and they use two or maybe three fingers to type with. Why do you think most lawyers and business managers have a secretary? Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov Shamil Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 2:42 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows 8: Not! Sorry, Hans, My daughter, who is working as a clerk/assistant in a large retail net here, is a kind of an ordinary users you probably mean: she has recently got a new laptop with Win8 and I haven't heard from her *any* complaints, and I haven't seen her being frustrated while working with Win8... Thank you. -- Shamil Sunday, May 26, 2013 2:33 PM -07:00 from Hans-Christian Andersen <hans.andersen at phulse.com>: >Maybe you've lost touch with ordinary users? We are talking about users whose only means of remembering keyboard shortcuts and passwords is if its written down on a post it note and stuck to their screen. They didn't ask for this change and its totally understandable that they are frustrated that it is forced upon them. > >To be honest, this is exactly what I expected to happen the minute i tried the win8 release candidate. If it was frustrating for even a tech person like myself, it was bound to be a disaster. > >- Hans > > >On 2013-05-26, at 12:05 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote: > >> Hi Jim -- >> >> I can understand folks who do not want to upgrade to Win8 because of inertia, luck of money, so many bad reviews posted everywhere on Win8 but I can't get what "feeling of frustration" forces folks getting Win8 preinstalled to make their systems downgraded to Win7, do you? >> >> I mean if they dislike/do not need to work in Win8 UI mode they can use [WindowsKey] + D to get into Windows classic desktop mode, put some frequently used programs short-cuts on desktop or just use [WindowsKey]+R to start programs by typing their executable file name /full path etc. - it's all very similar to Win7 ... >> >> -- Shamil >> >> Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:40 AM -07:00 from "Jim Lawrence" < accessd at shaw.ca >: >>> Hi Shamil: >>> >>> I will partially agree with you. >>> >>> Aside: I do not think Arthur has any particular "axe to grind" when it comes >>> to Win8 but I sense a very strong feeling of frustration, especially coming >>> from his client's acceptance of Microsoft's latest offering and he is just >>> reflecting their opinions. >>> >>> It appears that Microsoft has done fine job on their Windows 8 phones and >>> everyone who has one likes it. This does not mean that I will run out and >>> buy anything other than an Android phone. (I do not dislike iPods either but >>> prices and features are everything.) >>> >>> Unfortunately, the Microsoft way of force feeding the public, through >>> pre-loaded platforms, its Windows 8 desktop product is hardly an indication >>> the OS's acceptance or rejection. >>> >>> If a customer, when buying a PC, tablet or Phone, could at the moment of >>> purchase, select their OS, a much more accurate view of audience preference >>> could be established. Given a level playing field, I would suspect, sales of >>> MS's desktop version would go down, tablet sales would go up and phone sales >>> would stay the same. >>> >>> Jim >> <<< skipped >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com