[dba-Tech] Google’s Cerf Says “Privacy May Be An Anomaly”.

On 2013-11-22 1:59 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> That does say it, but does the privileges given to law enforcement after 9/11, supersede all rights to privacy with the rights to security?

Do you mean to ask that about the US? It ratified the UDHR, so it's the 
law of the land. A sad joke.

PB


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> Jim
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> On 2013-11-22 8:59 AM, Tina Norris Fields wrote:
>> It's interesting to me that the presumption of a right to privacy in
>> the U.S. stems from the assurances of the Fourth Amendment, to be
>> secure from unreasonable search and seizure, combined with the
>> assurances of the Ninth Amendment that rights that haven't been
>> enumerated still exist and are retained by the States and the People
>> themselves.
> Article 12 of the UDHR says "No one shall be subjected to interference
> with his privacy, family, home or correspondence..."
>
> PB
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>> Although the right to privacy wasn't supported by documentation until
>> the Supreme Court 1967 decision, the families I knew while growing up
>> all presumed they had the right to keep certain information to
>> themselves.  The concept that some things were nobody else's business
>> is not a new concept.  However, I would point out that the American
>> culture wasn't all that clear about its attitudes, as demonstrated by
>> laws on the books that regulated what persons could and couldn't do
>> within their own bedrooms.  So, while I believe we have long had a
>> sense of ownership and choice concerning what we reveal to others, we
>> haven't been even-handed in our attitude when it came to prying into
>> the affairs of others.
>>
>> To paraphrase an old saying, it's not so much that we opposed
>> ox-goring as that we opposed having our own ox gored.
>>
>> Best to you,
>> TNF
>>
>> Tina Norris Fields
>> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
>> 231-322-2787
>>
>> On 11/21/2013 6:47 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote:
>>>    Hi All --
>>>
>>>
>>> FYI:
>>>
>>> " Google’s Cerf Says “Privacy May Be An Anomaly”.
>>>
>>> http://techcrunch.com/2013/11/20/googles-cerf-says-privacy-may-be-an-anomaly-historically-hes-right/
>>>
>>>
>>> Your opinions?
>>>
>>>
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