Salakhetdinov Shamil
mcp2004 at mail.ru
Sat Nov 23 23:57:12 CST 2013
Hi Robert -- I have just found: " What Ben Franklin Really Said " ( http://www.lawfareblog.com/2011/07/what-ben-franklin-really-said/ ) " In short, Franklin was not describing some tension between government power and individual liberty. He was describing, rather, effective self-government in the service of security as the very liberty it would be contemptible to trade. Notwithstanding the way the quotation has come down to us, Franklin saw the liberty and security interests of Pennsylvanians as aligned." Thank you. -- Shamil Saturday, November 23, 2013 6:09 PM -05:00 from "Robert" <robert at servicexp.com>: >"They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary >Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." > >WBR >~Robert > > >-----Original Message----- >From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin >Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 6:13 PM >To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Google's Cerf Says "Privacy May Be An Anomaly". > >No - there are no absolutes (except for that one). All rights haven't been >superseded nor can that happen in our system. > >There is always a balance between privacy and security - after 9/11 the >balance swung, with the public's approval, towards more security at the >expense of privacy. > >It now appears that there will be a move in the other direction - the public >will begin to insist on more privacy at the expense of security. > >Either because they are willing to accept the increased security risk for >less intrusive government. > >Or because they do not perceive (correctly or incorrectly) that the risk is >great enough to justify the security measures. > >R > ><<< skipped >>>