[dba-Tech] Image from SATA HD to SSD

John R Bartow jbartow at winhaven.net
Wed Oct 23 16:45:45 CDT 2013


Great tip!
Thanks Bill.

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From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 2:45 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Image from SATA HD to SSD

I have tested this a few times and it was always OK so I quit testing. To
test you can use the following after loading the SSD from Whirlpool.net.au

To check the alignment of your SSD's partition, it is quite simple.
In windows 7, run msinfo32 by typing it into the search box on your start
menu and hitting enter.
click on: components => storage => disks Look for your SSD and check the
partition starting offset.
It needs to be divisible by 4096 (ie return a whole number when you divide
by this) otherwise the alignment is not correct.

Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: John R Bartow
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:11 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Image from SATA HD to SSD

Thanks Bill,
I have Acronis, I'll check it out.

One other item of interest in their product literature was this:

"The introduction of the latest HDDs and SSDs has created a new problem with
volume alignment caused by changes in sector size. By changing the sector
size from 512 bytes to 4 kilobytes, some traditional methods of disk
partitioning have become obsolete and actually harmful. Unaligned partitions
cause overall performance decline on new HDDs/SSDs. The lifespan of SSDs can
be significantly reduced as a result of many redundant read/write operations
caused by unaligned partitions. Using proper migration tools to copy volumes
eliminates these problems. Paragon's Migrate OS to SSD component is
alignment aware software that automatically places partitions according to
defined 4K sectors, leaving system performance and SSD reliability
unaffected."

I wonder if Acronis does all of this too. Time for more research!
John
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 1:21 AM
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Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Image from SATA HD to SSD

John,

I've converted several and usually use Acronis, I never checked, but I think
if it was uFHI  then the copy was uFHI but perhaps it did change them to
MBR/NTFS. My current machine has  a 256 SSD and it is MBR but it has been
upgraded from Vista, then WIn7 and finally to  Win8.  I do not remember if I
restored from a backup or cloned it. Acronis seems to adjust the size if you
select automatic.
I do remember that my daughter had a Win 8 machine for awhile and her
WIndows Home Server would not back it up because it was uFHI.

I checked my notes and one  Windows  7 project I updated the clone process
would not recognize the new SSD. My solution was to plug the SSD into my
SATA USB adaptor and formatted  it NTFS then used Disk Management to
activate it and it worked fine.

HTH,

Bill



-----Original Message-----
From: John R Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 8:58 PM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Image from SATA HD to SSD

Thanks Bill,
I wondered because there's a program for sale
http://www.paragon-software.com/technologies/components/migrate-OS-to-SSD/
And I was wondering why it would be needed. I read up on it a bit and it
apparently handles uEFI boot mode transfers intelligently so they don't get
mucked up. And it can downsize the image to transfer to a smaller drive (I
think most imagers can do that now - right?). But I have MBRs on both.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:44 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Image from SATA HD to SSD

Other than turning off automatic defragers non that I can think of.

Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: John R Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:19 PM
To: DBA-Tech
Subject: [dba-Tech] Image from SATA HD to SSD

Is there anything special about imaging from SATA HDs to SSDs?
TIA
John B

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