[dba-Tech] Bundled Adware in IE?

John R Bartow jbartow at winhaven.net
Wed Dec 10 15:49:58 CST 2014


I doubt the maker of the browsers do it. I think the PC maker or
redistributor did it. Answer: money.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris
Fields
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:01 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Bundled Adware in IE?

Yeah, I know.  Yesterday, I fixed computer stuff for my sister and my
sister-in-law.  Had I been charging, I'd have made about $500.  But, I don't
charge family. And, besides, my sister gives me the benefit of her medical
training without charge, so we're good.

I still wonder why the makers of a legitimate product, like IE or FF or
Chrome would bundle in aggressive adware.  They have to know that will
seriously interfere with their clients' ability to use the legitimate
software.  I just don't get that part.

TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 12/10/2014 1:53 PM, John R Bartow wrote:
> Start charging her and I'll bet she switched ;-) Nothing is perfect, 
> and Avast is OK but why do people trust trade rags more than 
> experience?
>
> I no longer argue this point. I make more money cleaning up after MSE, 
> AVG, Avast, (Preinstalled Norton, MacAfee and others that are either 
> out of date or misconfigured) than I do installing Vipre. I recommend 
> changing but don't make a big deal out of it if they are adamant that 
> 'the morning talk show recommends...' Many times I'll be there 
> multiple times over a couple of years and then they'll take my advice. 
> For the most part I hear from them once a year for renewal after that.
>
> Adware invites malware to join in the party. Download Vipre Rescue and 
> run that through(in safe mode) too:
> http://live.sunbeltsoftware.com/Download2/
>
> BTW, Vipre has modernized its UI. Some of you may like it. I don't. 
> Glad I don't have to use it much.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina 
> Norris Fields
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:47 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Bundled Adware in IE?
>
> Thanks, John.  She is using Avast as her antivirus program (I've 
> preached Vipre, now, for years, and everybody else in the family is 
> using it, but she insists on Avast).  We were finally able to download 
> and install Avast, run some scans and get rid of most of the crapware.
> Then, I downloaded and ran Malwarebytes and got rid of some more.
> Overnight, I ran the Avast deep scan and got rid of some more. Then, I 
> ran the Avast boot scan and found three more - two were in the browser 
> folders, IE and FF.  So, I think we finally got it all cleaned up.
>
> Now, philosophical question - why?  The adware is so annoying, so 
> distressing, so intrusive - why would anybody be willing to bundle it 
> in a legitimate product?  That just seems the perfect way to turn 
> people against the legitimate product.  To me, this is crazy.  Why do 
> they do this?  It actually makes the computer un-usable.
>
> TNF
>
> Tina Norris Fields
> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
> 231-322-2787
>
> On 12/9/2014 4:58 PM, John R Bartow wrote:
>> Yes, all browsers have adware add-ins/extensions. All it takes is one 
>> and then you have many. I haven't run into too many IE related ones 
>> lately but Chrome has been hammered with them.
>>
>> Used to be that almost all consumer pcs/laptops were preloaded with 
>> 'features' that most us called 'crapware'. I do setup some consumer 
>> models occasionally and , especially if they're purchased from BB or 
>> some other
> big
>> box store, they have crapware on them. First thing I remove is the 
>> crap
> free
>> security software, then the crapware. Use Malwarebytes to clean up 
>> the
> trash
>> :-)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina 
>> Norris Fields
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:40 PM
>> To: DatabaseAdvisors-Tech
>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Bundled Adware in IE?
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> My sister just purchased a new Dell Latitude, with Win 8.1. Suddenly, 
>> pop-ups appeared all over IE, Firefox seemed to disappear and become 
>> Speed Browser, a bunch of icons appeared on her desktop that were 
>> unwelcome.  I got into IE and found add-ons that were aggressive 
>> adware
>> - at least a dozen of them - and their "disable" option was unavailable.
> I
>> did finally get rid of them, but I was astonished to see them in the 
>> first place.  Has anybody else had this experience with a brand new
machine?
>>
>> She had used IE to download Firefox, and was about to download her
> favorite
>> antivirus program, when pop-ups began proliferating all over the screen.
>> Some had nice little Xs in the top right corner, that looked like 
>> commands to close, but, when she clicked the X instead of stopping, 
>> it behaved as though she had said "Yes, go ahead."  This so 
>> frustrated her that she just shut down the computer.
>>
>> So, today, I spent several hours cleaning it up.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> TNF
>>
>> --
>> Tina Norris Fields
>> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
>> 231-322-2787
>>
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