John R Bartow
jbartow at winhaven.net
Wed Dec 10 15:49:58 CST 2014
I doubt the maker of the browsers do it. I think the PC maker or redistributor did it. Answer: money. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:01 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Bundled Adware in IE? Yeah, I know. Yesterday, I fixed computer stuff for my sister and my sister-in-law. Had I been charging, I'd have made about $500. But, I don't charge family. And, besides, my sister gives me the benefit of her medical training without charge, so we're good. I still wonder why the makers of a legitimate product, like IE or FF or Chrome would bundle in aggressive adware. They have to know that will seriously interfere with their clients' ability to use the legitimate software. I just don't get that part. TNF Tina Norris Fields tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com 231-322-2787 On 12/10/2014 1:53 PM, John R Bartow wrote: > Start charging her and I'll bet she switched ;-) Nothing is perfect, > and Avast is OK but why do people trust trade rags more than > experience? > > I no longer argue this point. I make more money cleaning up after MSE, > AVG, Avast, (Preinstalled Norton, MacAfee and others that are either > out of date or misconfigured) than I do installing Vipre. I recommend > changing but don't make a big deal out of it if they are adamant that > 'the morning talk show recommends...' Many times I'll be there > multiple times over a couple of years and then they'll take my advice. > For the most part I hear from them once a year for renewal after that. > > Adware invites malware to join in the party. Download Vipre Rescue and > run that through(in safe mode) too: > http://live.sunbeltsoftware.com/Download2/ > > BTW, Vipre has modernized its UI. Some of you may like it. I don't. > Glad I don't have to use it much. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina > Norris Fields > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:47 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Bundled Adware in IE? > > Thanks, John. She is using Avast as her antivirus program (I've > preached Vipre, now, for years, and everybody else in the family is > using it, but she insists on Avast). We were finally able to download > and install Avast, run some scans and get rid of most of the crapware. > Then, I downloaded and ran Malwarebytes and got rid of some more. > Overnight, I ran the Avast deep scan and got rid of some more. Then, I > ran the Avast boot scan and found three more - two were in the browser > folders, IE and FF. So, I think we finally got it all cleaned up. > > Now, philosophical question - why? The adware is so annoying, so > distressing, so intrusive - why would anybody be willing to bundle it > in a legitimate product? That just seems the perfect way to turn > people against the legitimate product. To me, this is crazy. Why do > they do this? It actually makes the computer un-usable. > > TNF > > Tina Norris Fields > tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com > 231-322-2787 > > On 12/9/2014 4:58 PM, John R Bartow wrote: >> Yes, all browsers have adware add-ins/extensions. All it takes is one >> and then you have many. I haven't run into too many IE related ones >> lately but Chrome has been hammered with them. >> >> Used to be that almost all consumer pcs/laptops were preloaded with >> 'features' that most us called 'crapware'. I do setup some consumer >> models occasionally and , especially if they're purchased from BB or >> some other > big >> box store, they have crapware on them. First thing I remove is the >> crap > free >> security software, then the crapware. Use Malwarebytes to clean up >> the > trash >> :-) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina >> Norris Fields >> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:40 PM >> To: DatabaseAdvisors-Tech >> Subject: [dba-Tech] Bundled Adware in IE? >> >> Hi, >> >> My sister just purchased a new Dell Latitude, with Win 8.1. Suddenly, >> pop-ups appeared all over IE, Firefox seemed to disappear and become >> Speed Browser, a bunch of icons appeared on her desktop that were >> unwelcome. I got into IE and found add-ons that were aggressive >> adware >> - at least a dozen of them - and their "disable" option was unavailable. > I >> did finally get rid of them, but I was astonished to see them in the >> first place. Has anybody else had this experience with a brand new machine? >> >> She had used IE to download Firefox, and was about to download her > favorite >> antivirus program, when pop-ups began proliferating all over the screen. >> Some had nice little Xs in the top right corner, that looked like >> commands to close, but, when she clicked the X instead of stopping, >> it behaved as though she had said "Yes, go ahead." This so >> frustrated her that she just shut down the computer. >> >> So, today, I spent several hours cleaning it up. >> >> Thanks, >> TNF >> >> -- >> Tina Norris Fields >> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com >> 231-322-2787 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com