[dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder

Hi Shamil:

Let us hope so.

Jim

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From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 12 February, 2014 11:30:55 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder

 Hi Jim --

I guess that Microsoft Project Siena, when released, will have an option to release HTML5 web apps (via Office 365), which will run OK  on the most popular mobile/desktop platforms.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:58 AM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>:
>Hi Gustav:
>
>This product seems very narrow focused. It can only be built on Windows 8 and only run/used and Windows 8...this describes around 8 percent of the mobile/desktop market. It would be useless for most clients as they have a mixed environment...
>
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Gustav Brock" < gustav at cactus.dk >
>To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com >
>Sent: Tuesday, 11 February, 2014 2:06:41 AM
>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder
>
>Hi all
>
>A very recent attempt (still in beta) has been done for creating apps for
>Windows 8: Microsoft Project Siena.
>It's interesting as it focuses on retrieving and displaying data from remote
>sources using methods that should be familiar to a power Excel user (no
>Access here):
>
>     http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/dn518139
>
>The video is only a few minutes but gives a better impression of the tool
>than the description. Of course, working with the examples is the better way
>to go.
>The generated code is claimed to be JavaScript and HTML5 so it should be
>possible to customize.
>
>The project is by itself a Windows App so you must run Windows 8+ to take
>advantage of it.
>
>/gustav
>
>
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>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] På vegne af Arthur Fuller
>Sendt: 1. februar 2014 19:47
>Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder
>
>Shamil,
>
>Of course not. Heavy lifting is always required. The trick with these
>graphic programming tools is this: do they get out of the way when heavy
>lifting is required, or are we trapped in their paradigm?
>
>I often draw an analogy to this situation when it comes to team-programming.
>Large parts of almost any custom app can be executed by novices. Small parts
>of almost everything worth being paid for require skills. If you recall,
>several years ago I hired you to perform some small bits of an app, for
>which you had the expertise and I did not. That particular project involved
>3 developers. A local junior programmer dealt with form and report creation.
>I handled the middle bits, and hired you to write the Windows API stuff that
>I didn't know how to do. It all went together in a smooth deliverable, and
>an example of what I consider my (excuse the reference to this weekend's
>Super Bowl) quarterbacking skills.
>After all these years in this business, I know how to pass the ball, and to
>whom to pass it, to get the job done.
>
>Arthur
>
>


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Салахетдинов Шамиль
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