Arthur Fuller
fuller.artful at gmail.com
Mon Jan 27 18:00:24 CST 2014
I have used TeamViewer for a while now and I love it. I've done a few remote programming gigs lately, working with programmers in distant cities, and TeamViewer provided an excellent means for them to show me around the app in question. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: > Hi John: > > Teamviewer it is then. > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Bartow" <jbartow at winhaven.net> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" < > dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 11:38:37 AM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] LogMeIn is no more > > I use a corporate version of TeamViewer that is built into my RMS and it > works quite well. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 1:10 PM > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] LogMeIn is no more > > Hi Jim > > I've found Splashtop close to useless. Controlling an older XP machine > takes > minutes where it should take seconds. > So I installed it on a local Windows 7 machine with i3 cpu, and that could > be controlled with a high degree of patience but still useless for work. > > Then I installed TeamViewer and it rushed away at once, much like standard > remote desktop and as LogMeIn does. > > So sadly, Splashtop may be fine for mobile devices (didn't try that, don't > have the need) but not as an alternative for desktop use. > > /gustav > > > >>> accessd at shaw.ca 26-01-14 19:53 >>> > Hi Gustav: > > I have found similar and other issues with Splashtop Remote as well. Keep > us > posted on what you find out with Teamviewer. > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk> > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:29:45 AM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] LogMeIn is no more > > Hi Jim > > No it was Splashtop I checked out. On that old WinXp host it takes 1:45 to > open a tiny text file, render it, and close it again. With LogMeIn on that > machine you can perform normal tasks though not speedy. This is across a 2 > Mb/s WAN. RDP runs at close to normal working speed. > > I noticed that when Splashtop open the connection to the machine, the > splashtop service at once goes to 95% CPU usage where LogMeIn would stay at > a few percent. > > I have yet to test Teamviewer, but the license model is very inflexible. > > /gustav > > >>> accessd at shaw.ca 26-01-14 0:29 >>> > Hi Gustav: > > I had OpenVPN running from a (Linux) server at my home and found the > performance was more the adequate in allowing me to access all networks > station (Linux and Windows), from another city. > > If you tried to run an OpenVPN server on just an old XP box, one on which > requires a extra translation layer, it was surprising that it actually > worked at all. ;-) XP runs an OpenVPN client just fine though. > > The application of course is going to be much slower than an app like > Splashtop Desktop where only keyboard type inputs are sent one way and > images are sent the other. A VPN is an encrypted tunnel...with a lot more > overhead...privacy and security is the expectation. > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk> > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 1:59:38 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] LogMeIn is no more > > Hi Jim > > I'm not sure. I just tried to install it on a WinXP machine and remote > control that from my Win8.1 Desktop. It is so slow over a 2 Mb/s line that > it is useless, much slower than even VNC. The Windows App doesn't work at > all. > > What about OpenVPN? It seems to require that you run a server of your own? > > /gustav > > >>> accessd at shaw.ca 25-01-14 21:43 >>> > Hi Gustav: > > It looks like that may be the best quick answer. As for any large sites > maybe a OpenVPN server (http://openvpn.net) on the client's server may be > the best long term answer and from there, I can just RDP in or connect via > the shares to all the stations. > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk> > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 11:23:43 AM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] LogMeIn is no more > > Hi Jim et all > > Splashtop seems to win on a simple commercial pricing where indeed > TeamViewer is very limited regarding installs and "channels": > > 1.Simple, affordable pricing model * $60 per user per year, to remotely > control an unlimited number of computers from an unlimited number of > devices. > > And they even feature a Windows Phone app. I like that, though I'll > probably > never use it. > > /gustav > > > >>> gustav at cactus.dk 25-01-14 20:12 >>> > Hi Jim > > Splashtop works across firewalls if you sign up for the web access option. > > /gustav > > >>> accessd at shaw.ca 25-01-14 19:30 >>> > Hi Gustav: > > I found out the LogMeIn was dead when my client told me it wasn't > working...very upsetting and to my way of thinking not very unprofessional. > It will be a while before I will endorse the product again, if ever. > > I had initially been interested in Splashtop remote, but according to the > attached article there may be issues with firewalls and therefore routers? > This will require further investigation. Splashtop remote is supposed to be > very fast and also runs on all platforms so I have not abandoned its > potential use yet. > > Teamviewer might be the more appropriate choice...any thoughts? > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk> > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 9:57:09 AM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] LogMeIn is no more > > Hi Jim > > Even as a loyal user, this was such a surprise to me that I posted this to > the forum: > > <quote> > "As a help to our loyal users we'll give you 60, no 30, no 7 (seven) days > to > ..." > > Sorry, this is not a way to address loyal users. We're off. > I'm quite sure the competion will know how to not pertinently address loyal > users. > > Even after 30 years in this business, the way suppliers can address > customers still surprises me. Some people are not educated, I've realized, > or just plain stupid. > </quote> > > Now, what was the name of the very interesting newcomer, you told about not > so long ago, please? > > /gustav > > > >>> accessd at shaw.ca 25-01-14 18:34 >>> > Hi All: > > Well the truth is LogMeIn is still there but now the model is > pay-as-you-go. > Today I will be running around to a couple of clients and replacing their > remote products...but I still have not decided which one is best. I am sort > of leaning towards Splashtop Remote...any thought? > > > http://www.infoworld.com/t/free-tools/locked-out-of-logmein-check-out-these- > free-alternatives-234812 > > Jim > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Arthur