Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Wed Jan 29 18:31:27 CST 2014
Hi Shamil: I remember around the time Borland was totting their new product, which at the time I thought was impossible, by the way, there was a heated debate about whether ISAM and indexed flat-based files were going to be replaced by Oracle's new SQL server. We all now know what happened. Products will live and die as the capabilities, needs and understand grows. Whether it is the right time for Flow-Based Programming the market will tell but the concept is not going away. The only thing that is giving me some hope that there actually be a working version, at the end of the design phase, is the very strong team of developers, working on the project. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 2:58:44 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] A new graphic program builder Hi Jim et All -- I'm sorry to be rather skeptical on all that "new way" visual "logic drawing-driven" "rapid application development" tools - have a look: "by CBR Staff Writer| 12 February 1991 ... In another age the product might have been described as an expert system, but the buzz word now is Object and the product offers visual programming techniques to enable users to stipulate objects and processes via drawings..." http://www.cbronline.com/news/borland_objectvision_makes_writing_windows_programs_easy Do you remember it - Borland Object Vision? I do. And before that around year 1981 last century there was "Application Development Without Programmers" James Martin (Author) http://www.amazon.com/Application-Development-Without-Programmers-Martin/dp/0130389439 Did you read it? I did. And I did read it on that ancient now times. It was exciting reading... that time. And the "Application Development Without Programmers" was published a few years *after* this well known book: "The Mythical Man-Month" by Fred Brooks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month Did you read it? I did. And I did read it nearly the same time as I did read the "Application Development Without Programmers" book somewhere in the beginning of 80-ies of last century. (NB: that were ex-USSR times here, mainstream/bestselling there on "wild West" books were available here, but sometimes with considerable delay.) And somewhere in the beginning of 90-ies there was the "The Computer Revolution in Software System Development" ( http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/The_Computer_Revolution/Software/System_Development ) - all kinds of software design case systems: does anybody of you using something like that in your everyday software development work? ---- Resume: there exists "something" elusive, subtle, intangible, imponderable, evasive, vague, volatile, subtle, inappreciable, impalpable - sorry for my English - select any word, which you suppose is better highlighting "never ending, durable software development crisis" issue.. there exists something, which will always make the "new ways of programming" getting obsolete rather quick. And this "something" is "Governing in details" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_is_in_the_detail ), which will always require 80% of software projects development time to be spent on to keep competing in this accelerating world... -- Shamil Tuesday, January 28, 2014 7:59 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>: >Hi All: > >For all you developers out there a new way of programming. Check out NoFlo another application that has reached (and surpassed) it financial goal and now is in full development on Kickstarter...another startup program out of San-Francisco. > >https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/noflo/noflo-development-environment?ref=category > >Check this out and what do you think? > >Jim > >PS It is OSS >_______________________________________________ > -- Салахетдинов Шамиль _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com