Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Thu Jan 30 13:10:08 CST 2014
Hi Jim: I could not agree with you more. Security would be a nightmare to start with. Network isolation would be mandatory. OTOH, companies' with webbased infrastructure are already setup for this type of environment. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough" <jon.tydda at lonza.com> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:12:59 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows will rise again. As a helpdesk tech, the worst idea in the world is BYOD. With a standard piece of desktop hardware, rolled out to several hundred users, that's great. If one breaks, we can swap it out with a spare, or reimage it in an hour. With people's own personal hardware, it's hell to support. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 8:20 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows will rise again. Hi All: Is the issue with freezing up a default configuration or is it a setting that someone has to set? If it is a default situation then it is a problem because the average user would not have a clue or even feel they should have to...it should just work right out of the box just like a toaster. ;-) The truth is I do not have a "Dog in this fight". I have updated no one to Windows 8 and do not have any Windows 8.x computers. When Windows 9 comes out, I will take another serious look as I believe that Windows 9 will have gotten a lot of the issues resolved, be able to swap from desktop to web instantly and have a lot more features...the bottom line is that I do not have to move my desktops and those of any clients anywhere...we are just happy where we are. The desktop OS is becoming more irrelevant as the industry evolves...all you need is a (good) browser. OTOH, building servers and the software they support, now that is where the money is...and most of the latest technology...and there is no Windows 8 in that world...databases, software deployment, server side software, email servers, web servers, cloud servers, backups, network security, user management and so on. The other concern is that I do not believe that Microsoft has a firm commitment to the Desktop. One day we may find that, like Google and Firefox, we will only have a MS browser desktop? Aside: And while we are on the subject, I think the way to install a network is from the server. Have the server constructed on the workbench for your specific client. Assemble all the components, images, features that they need so that when that new server is unboxed on site everything is ready to deploy. Each station will be built from the server and the network should not be OS dependant or should any desktop software...it is a BYOC (bring your own computer) world now. Of course it could be a major point of discussion on how to assemble the perfect server...and I have been working on that for years now. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tydda Jon - Lonza Slough" <jon.tydda at lonza.com> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:16:26 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows will rise again. I've seen freeze-ups on my Windows 8.1 laptop, but there's a "known" feature with the search indexer - if you disable that service, it stops it using 100% of the CPU, and makes it all better. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 7:22 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows will rise again. Hi Jim As Windows 8 is great, why not Windows 9? Seems from the comments like you have a US-centric issue: <quote> .. everybody I've talked with who has either 64-bit Windows 7 or 64-bit Windows 8 has these freeze-ups .. </quote> Never seen that here. /gustav -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] På vegne af Jim Lawrence Sendt: 28. januar 2014 20:26 Til: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Emne: [dba-Tech] Windows will rise again. Hi All: Microsoft has been set back seriously with it desktop PC. Is this a surprise...no, as it seems every second release borks...from Windows98 and on, so it really comes as no surprise. The concepts of Windows 8, I thought were pretty good, basically but unfortunately that concept was not articulated to the point where the average non techy could grasp. Most of the major proponents and evangelists of the Window8 project have left Microsoft as of late. (a purge?) What I am waiting for is Window9. Microsoft has always been able to pull it together, on the second try and I am expecting great things. Gesture controlled screen, from a distance, voice activation and control, easy connection and streaming to all hardware and appliances, unobtrusive solid security and so on. http://www.techrepublic.com/article/microsofts-monumental-task-in-windows-9- win-back-the-base/#ftag=RSS56d97e7 I think, if true to form, Windows9 will be a success... Thoughts? Jim _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ________________________________ This communication and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential and privileged information the use of which by other persons or entities than the intended recipient is prohibited. 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