Gustav Brock
gustav at cactus.dk
Sun Mar 16 16:03:14 CDT 2014
Hi Jim et al
As mentioned elsewhere, we settled with Remote Utilities and the free version for commercial use and ten hosts:
http://www.remoteutilities.com
Note that the viewers are free (no license).
/gustav
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Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> på vegne af Gustav Brock
Sendt: 27. januar 2014 20:10
Til: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] LogMeIn is no more
Hi Jim
I've found Splashtop close to useless. Controlling an older XP machine takes minutes where it should take seconds.
So I installed it on a local Windows 7 machine with i3 cpu, and that could be controlled with a high degree of patience but still useless for work.
Then I installed TeamViewer and it rushed away at once, much like standard remote desktop and as LogMeIn does.
So sadly, Splashtop may be fine for mobile devices (didn't try that, don't have the need) but not as an alternative for desktop use.
/gustav
>>> accessd at shaw.ca 26-01-14 19:53 >>>
Hi Gustav:
I have found similar and other issues with Splashtop Remote as well. Keep us posted on what you find out with Teamviewer.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:29:45 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] LogMeIn is no more
Hi Jim
No it was Splashtop I checked out. On that old WinXp host it takes 1:45 to open a tiny text file, render it, and close it again. With LogMeIn on that machine you can perform normal tasks though not speedy. This is across a 2 Mb/s WAN. RDP runs at close to normal working speed.
I noticed that when Splashtop open the connection to the machine, the splashtop service at once goes to 95% CPU usage where LogMeIn would stay at a few percent.
I have yet to test Teamviewer, but the license model is very inflexible.
/gustav
>>> accessd at shaw.ca 26-01-14 0:29 >>>
Hi Gustav:
I had OpenVPN running from a (Linux) server at my home and found the performance was more the adequate in allowing me to access all networks station (Linux and Windows), from another city.
If you tried to run an OpenVPN server on just an old XP box, one on which requires a extra translation layer, it was surprising that it actually worked at all. ;-) XP runs an OpenVPN client just fine though.
The application of course is going to be much slower than an app like Splashtop Desktop where only keyboard type inputs are sent one way and images are sent the other. A VPN is an encrypted tunnel...with a lot more overhead...privacy and security is the expectation.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 1:59:38 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] LogMeIn is no more
Hi Jim
I'm not sure. I just tried to install it on a WinXP machine and remote control that from my Win8.1 Desktop. It is so slow over a 2 Mb/s line that it is useless, much slower than even VNC. The Windows App doesn't work at all.
What about OpenVPN? It seems to require that you run a server of your own?
/gustav
>>> accessd at shaw.ca 25-01-14 21:43 >>>
Hi Gustav:
It looks like that may be the best quick answer. As for any large sites maybe a OpenVPN server (http://openvpn.net) on the client's server may be the best long term answer and from there, I can just RDP in or connect via the shares to all the stations.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 11:23:43 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] LogMeIn is no more
Hi Jim et all
Splashtop seems to win on a simple commercial pricing where indeed TeamViewer is very limited regarding installs and "channels":
1.Simple, affordable pricing model * $60 per user per year, to remotely control an unlimited number of computers from an unlimited number of devices.
And they even feature a Windows Phone app. I like that, though I'll probably never use it.
/gustav
>>> gustav at cactus.dk 25-01-14 20:12 >>>
Hi Jim
Splashtop works across firewalls if you sign up for the web access option.
/gustav
>>> accessd at shaw.ca 25-01-14 19:30 >>>
Hi Gustav:
I found out the LogMeIn was dead when my client told me it wasn't working...very upsetting and to my way of thinking not very unprofessional. It will be a while before I will endorse the product again, if ever.
I had initially been interested in Splashtop remote, but according to the attached article there may be issues with firewalls and therefore routers? This will require further investigation. Splashtop remote is supposed to be very fast and also runs on all platforms so I have not abandoned its potential use yet.
Teamviewer might be the more appropriate choice...any thoughts?
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 9:57:09 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] LogMeIn is no more
Hi Jim
Even as a loyal user, this was such a surprise to me that I posted this to the forum:
<quote>
"As a help to our loyal users we'll give you 60, no 30, no 7 (seven) days to ..."
Sorry, this is not a way to address loyal users. We're off.
I'm quite sure the competion will know how to not pertinently address loyal users.
Even after 30 years in this business, the way suppliers can address customers still surprises me. Some people are not educated, I've realized, or just plain stupid.
</quote>
Now, what was the name of the very interesting newcomer, you told about not so long ago, please?
/gustav
>>> accessd at shaw.ca 25-01-14 18:34 >>>
Hi All:
Well the truth is LogMeIn is still there but now the model is pay-as-you-go. Today I will be running around to a couple of clients and replacing their remote products...but I still have not decided which one is best. I am sort of leaning towards Splashtop Remote...any thought?
http://www.infoworld.com/t/free-tools/locked-out-of-logmein-check-out-these-free-alternatives-234812
Jim