[dba-Tech] Looking for a web based app that does these things

[Jim Lawrence]

Hi Peter:

There is no question that the expectation (and requirements) of our new websites are far beyond what it was a decade ago. We didn't even have the tools that we needed and have today...let alone browsers.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 7:43:37 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Looking for a web based app that does these things

On 9/5/2016 16:36, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> As we are discussing web applications and having to create them, it appears that it may be a great opportunity for any who are fully astute in modern web design.
>
> A decade ago, before consideration of multiple platforms (PC, tablets and smartphones), mobility, collaboration, data collection/statistics/analysis and of course security, was someone else's problem, website design was relatively simple and straight-forward. Apparently, that has all changed...according to the ongoing trends.
>
> Ten years ago, I remember negotiating to upgrade the website for one of the local municipalities. The figures of the contract were around 30 to 40K, non-negotiable. Today, another company has just announced that they have a contract. to the same municipality, also for a complete upgrade. Mind you their contract is more inline with demands of current web technology. The contract value, first set of modules negotiated is $242K and obviously more to follow.

Right, a decade ago there weren't hundreds of nontrivially different 
mobile device types to each of which such a webapp needs to learn how to 
adapt seamlessly. And compared with a decade ago, data distribution is 
orders of magnitude more complex, security too. So it's surprising the 
bill for an update grew only sixfold or sevenfold in these ten 
years---that might be a big bargain, or a serious underestimate.

PB

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> A lot of major companies are paying millions to web design developer companies. Take one of our local phone and ISP companies for example, Telus: http://www.telus.com (Millions were and are being spent to keep their sites current and absolutely secure.)
>
> I believe this is really is the new Royal-Jelly for any bright developers out there...great opportunities and IMHO, this trend will last a good twenty years...and probably many more.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 11:39:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Looking for a web based app that does these things
>
> Hi Shamil
>
> So it is totally a corporate thing. Oh well.
>
> No, I didn't realise such app is "just a bunch" of json files. Interesting.
>
> /gustav
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> Fra: dba-Tech <dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> på vegne af Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
> Sendt: 4. september 2016 17:19:27
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> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech]  Looking for a web based app that does these things
>
> Hi Gustav --
>
> I was wrong with my supposition. It looks like public access to PowerApps isn't planned at all and is contradicting the main purpose/audience of PowerApps. Here is the video:  http://tinyurl.com/z9lyp2p   ('Why Power Apps? with Bill Staples").
>
> BTW, have you tried to investigate what a PowerApp file is? - it' a zip file with a set of PowerApp meta-files:
>
> Entities.json
> Header.json
> MacroTable.json
> Properties.json
> PublishInfo.json
> Themes.json
> -- Shamil
>
>> Saturday, September  3, 2016 3:58 PM +03:00 from Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>:
>>
>> Hi Shamil
>>
>> Yes, it is more or less another approach to "visual programming". I do recall ObjectVision which was very close to this concept, though I never found a serious use for it.
>>
>> Why do you think the missing public access to PowerApps is a temporary limitation? I haven't seen any note on this. But if removed, it will certainly raise the value of these apps.
>>
>> /gustav
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