[dba-Tech] Not for the paranoid

[Martin Reid]

Actually I get a lot of similar data from our crm.

Martin

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From: Jim Lawrence<mailto:accessd at shaw.ca>
Sent: ‎13/‎06/‎2018 19:32
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues<mailto:dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Not for the paranoid

Hi Gustav:

At the risk of being political but here is where tech and politics collides. It is more than just Facebook and Google, it is the Five-Eyes and the NSA. Google and Facebook may be the desktop collectors of the data and the companies who have developed systems for extracting useful information and profiling but government agencies are the ultimate storage and data users. Whether they will use their knowledge for good or bad is beyond any countries' citizens ability monitor or regulate.

Europe is making a good set of first steps but other countries have little or no regulations or over-sight. Google and Facebook may be doing their collecting in Europe but their data is stored outside of Europe and outside of any legal controls.

One day we can hope that all countries, in the civilized world, will adhere to decent privacy guidelines...but today is not that day.

Jim

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From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 8:45:15 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Not for the paranoid

Hi Jim

I thought I knew, but it only becomes worse and worse - it simply surpasses my imagination.

And yes, GDPR is certainly here:

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32001R0045&qid=1439283006325
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation

and it was about time. Facebook and Google both prove that.

/gustav

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Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] På vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 13. juni 2018 17:34
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Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] Not for the paranoid

Hi Gustav:

It seems a little excessive but we sort of knew that, didn't we? The article is pointing out the obvious and it seems the FB also collects data we might not consider important. Facebook doesn't like anyone else scrapping and using the data that FB is collecting...it could be used for nefarious reasons like what Cambridge Analitica did. Of course, FB has it all, legally and could do far worse and we just have to trust that they wouldn't.

Is it true that Europe has introduced personal rights protection laws?

Jim

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From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 7:56:54 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] Not for the paranoid

Hi all

Unless you are a robot - and Facebook knows that already - the Facebook monster it truly scary.
It is some power of ten worse than you had ever imagined:

http://nordic.businessinsider.com/facebook-reveals-all-the-way-it-tracks-user-behaviour-2018-6/

/gustav

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