[dba-Tech] Local storage, backups, SSD questions

Tue Aug 25 11:24:34 CDT 2020

My limitation with laptops is the display size. Second would be the real estate they take on the desk as opposed to a big display at the back of the desk and a keyboard and mouse.

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From: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 6:44 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Local storage, backups, SSD questions

All my boxes save the eldest are laptops. The eldest runs Win7 and is
probably cheaper to replace than upgrade. I also read somewhere that towers
are an inherently bad idea, since they gather so much dust. I sort of want
to keep the eldest one around, if only for nostalgia. Currently my desk is
getting too crowded -- three laptops, each running a different OS (Linux
Mint, Win10 and Google Chrome), plus two tablets running Android -- and all
this on the desk of a retired programmer. It sounds ridiculous, and perhaps
it is. As Michael Corleone said, "I keep trying to get out, but they keep
dragging me back in."

The next thing I need to learn is how to network them despite all their
different OSes. Actually that's the second thing. First is that only the
Win10 laptop is able to see the net. The Linux wifi setup dialogs are in
such miserable colours that I find them impossible to read

On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 8:11 AM Fred Hooper <fahooper at gmail.com> wrote:

> My approach in more detail (probably overkill):
>
> I have a 2TB drive in the main system; I use FreeSync to copy to/from a NAS
> with two mirrored 2TB drives. FreeSync on our laptops syncs with the NAS,
> which is synced to the 2TB drive in the main system. Finally, the main
> system is backed up on Backblaze.
>
> The effect of this is that everything is backed up both locally and in the
> cloud. The ~$5/month Backblaze cost is the only non-hardware cost.
>
> As Backblaze (for all folders) and the NAS (for some folders) keep earlier
> versions we can also recover from oops events — with FreeSync running every
> 10 seconds. However I manually clean out the “deleted” folder on the NAS as
> I’ve never gotten around to automating it.
>
> Fred
>
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 7:45 AM Helmut Kotsch <hkotsch at arcor.de> wrote:
>
> > That is what I am doing.
> >
> > Have two 3TB hard drives installed in my system for data storage.
> >
> > Each drive is partitioned as 3 logical drives with 1 TB.
> >
> > Synchronize them daily with the following software. Free for private use.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.ascompsoftware.com/en/products/show/php/prog/prog/synchredible/p
> >
> > roduct/synchredible/tab/
> >
> >
> >
> > or
> >
> >
> >
> > https://tinyurl.com/y3rqobc9
> >
> >
> >
> > Works like a charm for years.
> >
> >
> >
> > Helmut
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >
> > Von: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Im Auftrag
> > von
> >
> > Arthur Fuller
> >
> > Gesendet: Montag, 24. August 2020 04:42
> >
> > An: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> >
> > Betreff: Re: [dba-Tech] Local storage, backups, SSD questions
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the tips guys.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun., Aug. 23, 2020, 9:14 p.m. Gary Kjos, <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Buy a second 3TB drive and copy the entire contents of the one in use
> >
> > > to that.   Putting that new drive in a "Docking Station" will allow
> >
> > > for multiple backups. The docking stations can plug in via USB or
> >
> > > other connection methods depending on what the existing system can
> >
> > > use.  Spinning drives are very inexpensive now and are much more
> >
> > > trustworthy than SSD drives.  You don't need the highest performing
> >
> > > drive for backup purposes either.  Slower RPM and transfer rates would
> >
> > > work fine for a backup.  Nothing is completely without chance of
> >
> > > failure of course so having multiple generations of backup would be
> >
> > > desirable.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > GK
> >
> > >
> >
> > > On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 6:39 PM Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com
> >
> >
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Not that I'm expert in hardware, but it seems to me that hard disks
> are
> >
> > a
> >
> > > > thing of the past; given the size and price and speed of SSDs, the
> hard
> >
> > > > disk seems doomed. Add to that cloud technology. Factor in the
> >
> > plummeting
> >
> > > > cost/storage ratio of hard disks (3TB seems to becoming the
> standard).
> >
> > > Let
> >
> > > > us suppose that, like my friend Douglas, you like to store movies on
> >
> > your
> >
> > > > hard drives. He has at least 1000 movies stored on a few drives. How
> is
> >
> > > it
> >
> > > > possible to back all that up. It would cost you lots to use the
> cloud.
> >
> > > > As the numbers go up, my comprehension seems to go down. My friend is
> >
> > > just
> >
> > > > a consumer, not a professional. Let's assume that he has 3TB of data
> he
> >
> > > > wants to back up. He looks to me for advice and I have no idea what
> to
> >
> > > > suggest.
> >
> > > > Any advice would be most gratefully received.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > --
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