[dba-Tech] Network puzzles

[Tina N Fields]

Thank you, John,

I'm reporting back

Both computers are on the network called THE-FARM.

Windows 8.1 computer (Tina-PC-WIN8):

The folder to share is Drive C: - under the Sharing tab of the 
Properties dialog box it shows Shared.

In the Network and Sharing Center, the network is shown as Private. On 
the left it says THE-FARM 15 Private network. On the right it shows 
Access type: Internet; HomeGroup: Joined; Connections: Wi-Fi(THE-FARM)

In the Advanced Sharing Settings page, it shows Private (current 
profile) with Network discovery turned on and the box for "Turn on 
automatic setup of network connected devices" checked. File and printer 
sharing is turned on. HomeGroup connections has radio button for "Allow 
Windows to manage hoegroup connections (recommended)."

Guest of Public has Network Discovery and File and printer sharing both 
turned off.

All Networks has Public folder sharing turned on, no selections set up 
for Media streaming, File sharing connections has "Use 128-bit 
encryption to help protect the sharing connections (recommended)" 
selected. Password protected sharing is turned off (I am the only one 
using either of these computers and I don't want to have to enter a 
password to access my files on either computer).

In Services, Function Discovery Provider Host and Function Discovery 
Resource Publication are both Running and set to Automatic as Startup 
Type, Log On Type is Local Service.

HomeGroup services are on and they used to be handy when I was 
connecting to a WIN 7 and a WIN XP computer. But WIN 10 has removed that 
facility, so maybe I need to turn those services off. Don't know and I 
want to solve one problem at a time. On the System window it shows this 
WIN 8.1 computer as being in the WETWO workgroup.

Now, on to the WIN 10 computer (TINA-PC-WIN10):

The folder to be shared is Drive C - Under the Sharing tab of the 
Properties dialog box, it shows Shared.

In the Network and Sharing Center, the network is shown as Private. On 
the left it says THE-FARM private network; on the right it says Access 
Type: Internet; Connections: Wi-Fi(THE-FARM)

In the Advanced Sharing Settings, it shows Private (current profile) 
with both Network discovery and File and printer sharing turned on, and 
a check mark in the box “Turn on automatic setup of network connected 
devices.”

Under Guest and Public, both network discovery and File and printer 
sharing are turned off.

Under All networks, the Public folder sharing is turned on; no 
selections have been made under Media streaming; and File sharing 
connections has “use 128-bit encryption to help protect sharing 
connections (recommended), and password protected sharing turned off.

In Services both Function Discovery Provider Host and Function Discovery 
Resource Publication are Running, with Status Type of Automatic (the 
publication service adds Trigger Start to the Automatic), and both show 
Local Service as the Log On

No, neither one acknowledges the existence of the other. Let me add to 
the mystery. Earlier this morning, both computers showed the other 
computer in the File Explorer Network listing. Of course, when I 
attempted to access the other computer from either one, I got the popup 
that I don't have permission to access it. Since then, the network 
listing in File Explorer has returned to seeing only the local computer 
and not the other one.

John, I know this should be working much better than it is, and I'm 
baffled. What the heck am I doing wrong or failing to do?

Thanks for your help,
T





Tina Norris Fields
231-322-2787
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com

On 10/6/2021 7:30 PM, John Bartow wrote:
> Hi Tina,
> 1. Both computers should be connected either via cable or wireless to the same network and have a folder shared.
> -Open file explorer on each computer:
> ~Right click one the folder you wish to share on each computer, chose "Properties"
> ~Chose [Sharing] Tab
> ~Click [Share]
> ~Click the Combo Box and select Everyone and [Add]
> ~Next to Everyone in the Permission Level choose Read/Write
> ~Click [Share]
>
> 2. Both computers should have the network listed as "Private".
> -to check, paste this into File Explorer: Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Network and Sharing Center make sure it is listed as "Private" (it may state Work or Home depending on Windows version) but not "Public"
> -With that same screen dialogue displayed
> ~ click on "Change advanced sharing settings" make sure under [Private Network Discovery] has the radio button selected for
> ~"Turn On network Discovery"
> and
> ~"Turn on file and print sharing"
>
> 3. Now check to see if they see each other.
> -Open a different file explorer window, if the left navigation is turned on (otherwise turn it on):
> Click the Network icon. In the right pane all shared and discoverable computers, printers and other devices should be display.
> ~If not click in the address bar and type in: \\<insert computer name>\
> ~The folder(s) shared on that computer should display.
>
> If not let me know 😊
>
> HTH
> John B
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech <dba-tech-bounces+jbartow=winhaven.net at databaseadvisors.com> On Behalf Of Tina N Fields
> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2021 1:20 PM
> To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Network puzzles
>
> Hello Tech Wizards,
>
> I hope somebody on thus list will have an answer. I want to be able to share files between two computers. One is Win 8.1 and the other is Win 10. They are both 64-bit. They are on the same network and they have no difficulty finding the printers or the Internet. But, I've been unable to establish a secure (as in solid or reliable) connection between them.
>
> I have turned on the network, printer, and file sharing in the Network and Sharing Center. I have made sure that the Function Discovery services are on, so they should be publishing themselves on the network.
> I had them connected at one point and even mapped out network drives for them, with "reconnect at startup" set to "yes." They have since disappeared. On each computer, in File Explorer the network shows only that particular computer.
>
> I found a lovely document online that said when both computers are on the same network the process is pretty straightforward and offers exactly no explanation of what that process might be. Dang!
>
> Does anybody here have advice for me? I am getting really tired of waiting for things to upload to my Google Drive and then download , or putting things on a flash drive to go from one to the other. I really would like to have them wirelessly connected via the network they both are on.
>
> Thank you for any guidance you can offer, T
>
> Tina Norris Fields
> 231-322-2787
> tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
>
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