[dba-Tech] Just lost a Word file

John Bartow jbartow at winhaven.net
Sun Apr 17 13:00:42 CDT 2022 

Huh. Windows 7/8/10/11?

I had one client's ancient laptop last year that just wouldn't start OneDrive on login so I made a shortcut to do it. But that's about it for OneDrive problems lately. (Confusion no, lol. MS is so awful with documentation and confusing marketing.)

John B

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-Tech <dba-tech-bounces+jbartow=winhaven.net at databaseadvisors.com> On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2022 2:57 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Just lost a Word file

A couple of weeks ago:(


On 16 Apr 2022 at 7:30, John Bartow wrote:

> When did you have to do that? I haven't seen that issue for years. It 
> was a feature not a bug
> 
> I had a script that cleared the logs if needed, one of many scripts 
> that made up for someone else's lack of programming skills, lol.
> 
> John B
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-Tech
> <dba-tech-bounces+jbartow=winhaven.net at databaseadvisors.com> On Behalf 
> Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Friday, April 15, 2022 5:44 PM To:
> Discussion of Hardware and Software issues 
> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Just lost a 
> Word file
> 
> If you're using OneDrive (or even just have it installed), check your 
> %TEMT% directory and make sure it isn't full of files named 
> aria-debug-nnnn.log with a new one being create every 10 minutes :( I 
> tried everything I could find on the intertubes to stop them and the 
> only way I succeeded was to completely un-instal OneDrive!
> 
> 
> On 15 Apr 2022 at 21:09, John Bartow wrote:
> 
> > I no longer have any clients using Dropbox. But thanks, that's good 
> > to know.
> > 
> > OneDrive is fully integrated with Windows and getting more so with 
> > every release of Windows 11 (about time). So the vast majority of my 
> > clients use OneDrive, either personal or business versions of it.
> > 
> > I have a few one person businesses that use Macs and iCloud fits the 
> > same bill with those.
> > 
> > I have a few that that are Google shops and for that we use 
> > everything Google.
> > 
> > John B
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-Tech
> > <dba-tech-bounces+jbartow=winhaven.net at databaseadvisors.com> On 
> > Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett Sent: Friday, April 15, 2022 1:54 PM To:
> > 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Just lost a 
> > Word file
> > 
> > I think John's describing what happens with Dropbox. I can go into 
> > Dropbox and turn on the "previous versions" setting and find backups 
> > that way. Kathryn
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dba-Tech <dba-tech-
> > > bounces+kathryn=bassett.net at databaseadvisors.com> On Behalf Of
> > > John Bartow Sent: Friday, April 15, 2022 11:24 AM To: Discussion 
> > > of Hardware and Software issues <dba- tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Just lost a Word file
> > > 
> > > If you have a Microsoft account and have OneDrive cloud sync and 
> > > backup turned on you're covered for anything you save to your 
> > > desktop or account folders. The backup probably wouldn't catch a 
> > > file that was actively being created and worked on. But if it had 
> > > been created yesterday and screwed up today, then it would have 
> > > the backed up copy available. Just go to your Microsoft.com 
> > > account - OneDrive - Backups. So yes, OneDrive is no longer just a 
> > > cloud sync tool, it does backups too. Has for a few years now.
> > > 
> > > I still do full backups with a separate backup tool though.
> > > Trusting
> > Microsoft
> > > or Google is like feeding a rabid dog and expecting it to love you 
> > > in
> > return.
> > > 
> > > John B
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dba-Tech <dba-tech-
> > > bounces+jbartow=winhaven.net at databaseadvisors.com> On Behalf Of
> > > Rocky Smolin Sent: Friday, April 15, 2022 12:42 PM To: Discussion 
> > > of Hardware and Software issues <dba- tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Just lost a Word file
> > > 
> > > The best one for my money is drag and drop to an EHD.  Crude but
> > effective.
> > > 
> > > I got into the habit a long time ago, before the internets and 
> > > cloud.  I
> > was
> > > always afraid of losing a program file so whenever I finished 
> > > working on
> > any
> > > file, I dragged it to the desktop EHD shortcut. Then I started 
> > > dragging to
> > TWO
> > > EHDs so I had three copies. Now, even though any file I work on is 
> > > also on
> > my
> > > Google Drive, I still drag and drop to an external EHD. Plus on 
> > > mdbs and
> > word
> > > docs I append a version number which I bump every time I'm 
> > > finished with a file.  IOW, I don't trust my computer as far as I 
> > > can throw it.
> > > 
> > > r
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 10:21 AM Susan Harkins 
> > > <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > No, I don't have any of the Windows or Word features enabled for 
> > > > recovery because I'm stupid.
> > > >
> > > > I'm running software right now but it's going to take forever, 
> > > > but small price to pay if it works.
> > > >
> > > > At least I'll get an article out of it. I had no idea there were 
> > > > so many backup and recovery features now available.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: dba-Tech
> > > > <dba-tech-bounces+ssharkins=gmail.com at databaseadvisors.com> On 
> > > > Behalf Of Rocky Smolin Sent: Friday, April 15, 2022 1:14 PM To:
> > > > Discussion of Hardware and Software issues 
> > > > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Just 
> > > > lost a Word file
> > > >
> > > > Could it be in the recovery pane in Word? Did you try a search 
> > > > on part of the file name? I use voidtools' Everything. It's very 
> > > > effective.
> > > >
> > > > r
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 10:05 AM Susan Harkins 
> > > > <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I just did the dumbest thing I think I've ever done while 
> > > > > working. Someone, I overwrote my Word article file with my 
> > > > > Word demo file. I've check the temp folder, OneDrive. no where 
> > > > > in site. Any hope to recover it?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > Susan Harkins
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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