[dba-VB] Does anyone have

Hi

I'm not exactly sure what the target audience is, but everything is OO
based and whilst under the hood of the framework is some advanced
coding, app usage is I would say intermediate to advanced.  Rocky is a
programmer at heart and I guess sticks programming and not any
peripherals.  I'm sure he would answer you if you posted a question or
looked around - there's plenty of info.

I adopted this framework as what I started do myself in designing my own
sort of framework seemed covered (plus much more) and to a hugely better
standard by Rocky.  Such things a validation - where to put business
rules, authorisation, data access, n-level undo (never used this
though), smartdates etc - he has put a lot of thought into this and come
up with a v.good framework.  

The framework is supported by Codesmith, Code Complete and CSLAGen
(codemsmith incorporated/customised specifically for CSLA.net)  for code
generation of the business classes.  .Nettiers whilst v.good I believe
is more data access and does not cover the issues cited above.  Same as
the MS Enterprise libraries - these compliment CSLA (and vice-versa)
rather than compete.

Rocky has excellent credentials, speaking at VS Live 2008 conferences
along with Ken Getz etc and is also running a post conference workshop
on his framework.

My advice would be not to plough too deeply into the book(s) as this can
get heavy going sometimes but along with the book(s) try out yourself -
but as I say a learning curve is to be taken. 

One thing to consider is that if you decide not to utilise this
framework you still have to resolve those issues such as validation,
authorisation and so on yourself.

HTH

Richard



-----Original Message-----
From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: 11 December 2007 14:53
To: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Does anyone have

Hi John

I visited the site and got the same impression.

This is, sadly, the case for most open-source sites - lots of info on
marginal latest revisions and nerded comments, but only an obtuse - or
completely lacking - overview for the first-time visitor. Often not even
system/software requirements are listed. 

These people could really gain by learning some marketing: What is this,
what is the purpose, who is it aimed for, what skill is required, what
software is required, etc. It's a mess and a waste.

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 11-12-2007 15:28 >>>
Richard,

Thanks for the link.  I have to say it is annoying when an author does
things in reverse order.  I go to the site.  Plastered all over is CSLA.
So
what is CSLA?  There is a link, plainly labeled "what is CSLA".  So I go
to
that link.  There is an entire page starting with CSLA is a ....  At the
VERY BOTTOM is the paragraph that DEFINES the acronym CSLA.  

Sigh.

But in the end I ordered the book, as well as an older book by the same
author apparently no longer in print.  Let's hope he can help me!

;-)

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths,
Richard
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 4:30 AM
To: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Does anyone have

Hi

For anyone looking to move in vb.net (or c#.net) I would recommend
CSLA.Net
by Rocky Lhotka.
His framework is excellent.  There is too much to mention,  a steep
learning
curve but worth it.
Check out http://www.lhotka.net 
Richard



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