[dba-VB] Subversion, TortoiseSVN and VisualSVN

Shamil Salakhetdinov shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru
Fri Apr 25 13:27:01 CDT 2008


Hi John,

I did use Subversion for some time, then I abandoned it because customer
didn't insist on using any source control tools, and because I'm still
working mainly as one man shop...

...I do plan to restart using Subversion hopefully in the near future - I
wanted to be 'in' in this discussion and participate or at least lurk it
because of a lot of work here, and not that much time left for pleasure of
AccessD discussions...

...I did also use TortoiseSVN...

...I do agree that MS support is usually useless...

...I did also use CruiseControl.NET as well as NUnit as well as MS Build as
well as I do plan to add to that "bundle" MS SoundCastle, NCover and some
other useful tools...

...one or another bug/issues/features tracking/managing tools should be used
- I do use Axosoft's OnTiome2008 now...

...I did manage (last autumn) to make CruiseCOntrol.NET + Subversion + MS
Build + NUnit working together and making automated builds and (unit) test
runs - that's the only way to go for teamwork development these days...

...all that mentioned above stuff worked well here but I must admit it was
not that easy to make the parts working in ensemble but when everything was
tuned it happened to be relatively easy to handle stuff...

...I have had two large ASP.NET applications with probably several (1,2,3 ?
I didn't count) thousands of source files and about 15 projects in two
solutions to put into Subversion code base, automate compilation/building
using CruiseCOntrol.NET and MS Build etc...

...the only issue I can remember (after everything was set) is that I didn't
find how to easily manage the cases to synchronize central code db with
local code versions when source files are moved from one folder into another
within the same project - I could have missed something because of lack of
time, and experience or that could be a real "bottleneck" of Subversion with
everything else being very good I think...

...I'd participate in preparing and publishing on AccessD web site together
with other interested AccessD members an instruction/manual and set of
scripts and utilities on how to set up and effectively use together
Subversion, CruiseCOntrol.NET, MS Build, NUnit etc. - although I can't say
how much time I will have for this work...

Thank you.

--
Shamil

P.S. As far as I know Subversion "beats" MS Source Safe for the cases when
the project development should be fork-ed, and then several branches merged
back: the difference between Subversion and MS SourceSafe is conceptual here
IOW MS SourceSafe doesn't allow to automate "project forks" in principle. I
can be wrong, please correct me then, thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 9:41 PM
To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.
Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Subversion, TortoiseSVN and VisualSVN

Thanks Robert.  I find we prefer what we are familiar with.  Since I am 
not familiar with anything I can make Subversion what I am familiar 
with.  ;-)

What I have also found is that Microsoft's "technical support" is about 
as useless as tits on the proverbial boar, so the fact that there is no 
"tech support" seems irrelevant.  In the end we end up going to a forum 
somewhere to get support.

Thanks for your input though.  We shall see if anyone out there is using 
(or wants to use) Subversion.

Robert L. Stewart wrote:
> Been through the pain and suffering already.
> I much prefer Sourcesafe.
> 
> This was the tool used on one of the contracts I was on.
> They were always having problems with it.
> It is open source, so there was not what you would really
> call technical support.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> At 12:00 PM 4/25/2008, you wrote:
>> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:31:25 -0400
>> From: jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>> Subject: [dba-VB] Subversion, TortoiseSVN and VisualSVN
>> To: VBA <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Message-ID: <4812075D.6000306 at colbyconsulting.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> OK, I have been badgered and goaded into coming into the 21st century.
>> Not to mention I can't figure out how to safely and effectively share
>> development of my .Net programs on all of my machines.
>>
>> So I am trying to get Subversion installed and functioning.  So of
>> course I come here seeking advice or to start a user group (goad and
>> prod you guys) if no one is using this thing.
>>
>> I installed VisualSVN and it told me I had to install TortoiseSVN to get
>> full functionality.  It implied that it would install Subversion as
>> well.  The install did not ask any "install" questions such as where do
>> you want the database to go etc.
>>
>> My intention is to place the Subversion database on one of my servers,
>> share the directory, then place the various clients (TortoiseSVN and
>> VisualSVN on each machine which I develop on.
>>
>> So my first question, is anyone out there using this thing?  Is anyone
>> interested in using this and sharing the pain of figuring it out?
>>
>> --
>> John W. Colby
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
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