[dba-VB] Getting TextReader from strings...

Charlotte Foust cfoust at infostatsystems.com
Fri Jun 27 10:18:06 CDT 2008


Class modules, absolutely, when they're pure classes.  But when you are
working with WinForms, comments help a lot.  And if you want anyone
else, including yourself a year down the line, to remember WHY you did
it that way, even in a class module, comments are still valuable!!

Charlotte Foust
 

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[mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 7:54 AM
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I also agree.  Class modules can almost be completely self explanatory.

Drew

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[mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 4:42 AM
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Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Getting TextReader from strings...

Hi Shamil

> I do not argue, OK? :)

OK, that's also how I understood your comments. 

I see your point. There's a big difference between code modules like
that of Rocky's with 2000 lines and a series of small functions and
classes where all variables and methods and properties are given names
which clearly indicate the purpose.

Unfortunately, the XML commenting method I haven't used yet ...

/gustav


>>> shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru 27-06-2008 11:06 >>>
Hi Gustav,

I do not argue, OK? :)

The point is that inline commenting is becoming less and less
important/useful (and imposes too much costs to be true) as nowadays
(r-)evolutionary agile Test_Driven-Design (TDD) programming practices
progress: when applied by experienced agilist these practices result in
small max 10-15 code lines "self-explaining" streamlined methods. 

Classes/Modules and Methods DO have XML comments, where the purpose of
classes/modules/methods and all their parameters are described with
needed level of destabilization, as well as additional remarks to
explain the purpose and usage of method in details if needed are
supplied but usually no inline comments in code at all. I have seen
somewhere an article from Martin Fawler or maybe another famous agilist
who were "pushing" this approach.
And
I do use it and I like it - this is why I write about it :) (IOW I'm not
arguing for the purpose of "pure" arguing but I'm referring to everyday
practices, which I do follow with successfully finished projects and
satisfied customers with some of them being also experienced
developers...)

The everyday practice in TDD is that you can "mercilessly refactor" a
well covered by Unit/Integration tests piece of code several times a
day, and if it has inline comments then they become a trouble (they
result in additional significant support costs) as you need to modify
them as often as you refactor your code. But with clean streamlined code
every class, interface, method, parameter is usually self-explaining
therefore class level and method level comments are usually good
enough...

Thank you.

--
Shamil

P.S. Very mature IMO article on Agile and XP: "Is Design Dead?" -
http://martinfowler.com/articles/designDead.html 



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