Shamil Salakhetdinov
shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru
Fri Aug 21 02:57:30 CDT 2009
Hi Charlotte -- Thank you for your information. As I noted I currently do not plan to use dynamic data entities web applications in production but only to verify the data model design, to give to customers/users "working model" of some of their business areas, to prepare lookup/sample/test data: I found it very useful - I have just developed rather complicated data model for my customer project, clicked several times my mouse, made a few selections, typed a few chars - and voila' I can enter data, navigate all tables etc. Would that be possible to get known from your project manager what are the causes of their warnings about dynamic data entities? - I think that would be very useful for everybody here to know about their experience to not "step on rakes" as we say here. BTW, customization features provided by dynamic data entities web applications are also rather useful to implement something like "working, real life environment simulating specification": I have got only glanced those customization features and I have found they can be used at least to: - develop/simulate/test some kinds of (simple) business rules/checks used during data entry/edit; - develop almost ready to use in ASP.NET production environment ASP.NET custom controls. There should be more useful features I'm quite sure. And once again what is very important is that you can give "working model" for your customers/users almost immediately after/during the talks with them, they can play with it, they can get "instant fixes" for it etc. I have checked and AFAIS ADO.NET Entity Data Model can be quickly regenerated within VS2008 when source DB changes, and such regeneration preserves custom edits of ADO.NET Entity Data Model objects. Good stuff. Only positive experience so far. Thank you. -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 2:37 AM To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues. Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Dynamic Data Entities Web Applications Our project manager warned us about dynamic data entities and the MS entity model. No personal experience and he isn't a developer, so he's talking about his previous job. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:06 AM To: 'Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.' Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Dynamic Data Entities Web Applications Hi Gustav, VS2008 SP1: 1. Solution: Add: New Project -> Dynamic Data Entities Web Application... 2. Project: Add: New Item -> ADO.NET Entity Data Model The next steps are rather obvious, and Global.asax's comments give the clue how to make the application to work. But I can't get some more information on this type of projects. Yes, I can investigate them but I'd prefer to have some ready to use descriptions. Can't find them online on MSDN.... I have just got this link, which looks interesting: http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/matthijs/Fastest-To-Market-RAD-Web-Applic atio ns-with-ASPNET-Dynamic-Data-and-Entity-Framework/ It's a 1+ hour video... Thank you. -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 7:44 PM To: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Dynamic Data Entities Web Applications Hi Shamil No, not me. But how did you get started on this having no info?? /gustav >>> shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru 20-08-2009 17:38 >>> Hi All, I'm currently working on a project where I use Dynamic Data Entities Web Applications - DDEWA-(VS2008 SP1). I have tried to search Google and Bing to find some information on DDEWA but failed. Do you have any useful links on DDEWA? Thank you. -- Shamil __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4353 (20090820) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.esetnod32.ru