[dba-VB] Messaging For JWC WAS: Syslogs

Max Wanadoo max.wanadoo at gmail.com
Tue Jun 30 14:29:09 CDT 2009


So, why not use NET SEND?

Using Stuart's code you have the machine names on the net if you want to
pick one.  If you want to broadcast to all send to *


Max



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From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: 30 June 2009 20:21
To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.
Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Messaging For JWC WAS: Syslogs

Drew,

 >If you want to play around with it, what you need to do is use UDP to
'broadcast' a hello and 
goodbye message, to alert everything on the subnet.  (And you have to filter
that message on the 
broadcasting machine, cause it'll pick up it's own message).  In that
hello/goodbye message, you can 
include all the info you want (username, computername, IP,etc).  Then it's
just a matter of using 
TCP for direct comms between two machines.

In fact I don't want direct comms between machines, I want precisely
"broadcast" messages.  "Hey 
everybody, I added a new record in tblX".  Any machine receiving that
message promptly refreshes the 
cache for that table.

"Hey everybody, we are shutting down the BE in 10 minutes, get out".  Any
machine receiving the 
message pops up a message to the user telling them to finish up and get out
of the database.

That kind of message.  I really don't care about sending to a specific
machine, I care about sending 
to ALL machines.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


> 
> Native does put a crimp in things.  TCP/IP communications is pretty easy
> with a Winsock control.  It can be done with API's but it's a pain, and
> you need to deal with callback functions, which have issues in and of
> themselves in Access 2000 and on.
> 
> If you were ok with an .ocx, I could whip that up, if you need something
> native, that would require callbacks, and a lot more coding.  If you
> want to play around with it, what you need to do is use UDP to
> 'broadcast' a hello and goodbye message, to alert everything on the
> subnet.  (And you have to filter that message on the broadcasting
> machine, cause it'll pick up it's own message).  In that hello/goodbye
> message, you can include all the info you want (username, computername,
> IP,etc).  Then it's just a matter of using TCP for direct comms between
> two machines.
> 
> Drew
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:45 PM
> To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.
> Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Messaging For JWC WAS: Syslogs
> 
> Drew,
> 
> I really want this but it has to be vba native, no OCXs.  I am familiar
> with OCXs that are part of 
> Access, and that is OK.
> 
> This would be used with my framework and I cannot guarantee that i can
> register anything.  It has to 
> just work.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> 
> Drew Wutka wrote:
>> Is this something you really want?
>>
>> It would be pretty simple to create an OCX that you could have on a
>> hidden form, that would 'see' all running instances of your
> application,
>> and be able to 'communicate' to them.
>>
>> There is one quirk.  It'll work on a standard network.  However, if
> your
>> network is subnetted, it would only 'see' what's in the local subnet
>> (because the best way to do this is to send out a broadcast 'hello'
> and
>> 'goodbye' message).  To work with a subnetted network, you'd have to
>> come up with a 'server/client' scenario, so the server would see all
> the
>> connected users (sort of like a custom DNS server).
>>
>> If you aren't worried about a subnetted network, let me know, I am
>> pretty sure I can whip up an OCX to do what you want.
>>
>> Drew
> 
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