[dba-VB] SCRUM: Northwind .NET Product BackLog Planning Game...

Salakhetdinov Shamil mcp2004 at mail.ru
Wed Mar 18 07:53:41 CDT 2009


<<<
It is another thing to come up to speed on.
>>>
Yes.

-----Original Message-----
From: John W Colby <jwcolby at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues."<dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 07:52:54 -0400
Subject: Re: [dba-VB] SCRUM: Northwind .NET Product BackLog Planning Game...

> Not to mention the fact that many of us don't use source control at all 
> on a daily basis.  It is another thing to come up to speed on.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Breen wrote:
> > Hello Shamil,
> > As a member of a four person team a couple of years ago, we had some issues
> > with source control.  At the time, there was pressure to start work on the
> > project so we neglected the issue of centralized source control.   It became
> > a major issue to the project and was one of the reasons why the project was
> > only a limited success.  Four years later, it still remains difficult to get
> > access to the code on that project.
> >
> > If we can iron on the centralized source control now, and make it seamless,
> > I believe that it would be the best choice.
> >
> > FYI.  We tried three different systems / storage locations, what we found on
> > our project was that some aspects worked better for some sites, (we had US,
> > Ireland and Germany).  The German guys really loved their solution but of
> > course they had LAN access to the server.  The US guys were happy enough
> > with the German solution but it was slow.  But the Irish guys had some
> > routing problems that meant that it took 30 mins to check out a small
> > solution.  ----  The point being here that the chosen solution must work
> > well for all team members.
> >
> > My personal opinion is also that if source control is quick and fast, it
> > becomes second nature and is not an obstacle to smooth work, what ever
> > architecture we choose should be practiced a few times by all team members
> > so that we can all check in and out quickly and without fear in our hearts.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/3/17 Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru>- Hide quoted text -
> >
> >
> >   
> >> Hi Mike and SCRUM team,
> >>
> >> If BAZAAR needs Python interpreter I'd not use it (at least now as we all
> >> need to learn a lot of new stuff) - on first glance I understood BAZZAR can
> >> be used locally by running command line utilites  but for those utilities
> >> simple batch files should be possible to create (e.g. I used CVS this way),
> >> and if used via Lauchpad then somehow via web interface with upload/download
> >> and again coordinate locally using command line utils via .bat files...
> >>
> >> Let's not tie ourselves with Python if BAZAAR needs it? Although if Python
> >> interpreter and Bazaar installation is as simple as unzipping some files and
> >> setting some runtime environment variables then why not try to use them?
> >>
> >> Source control is desirable as it sets some boundaries to keep code well
> >> organized but in fact I suppose we can work without any source control
> >> system for this first project as there shoudln't be that much source files
> >> in it to share...
> >>
> >> Thank you.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Shamil
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: "Mike Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
> >> To: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>,"Discussion concerning Visual
> >> Basic and related programming issues." <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>
> >> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:01:46 -0400
> >> Subject: Re: [dba-VB]SCRUM: Northwind .NET Product BackLog Planning Game...
> >>
> >>     
> >>> Hmm, Python. Heard a lot, never tried.
> >>> I'll have to download it and see if it runs.
> >>>       
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