Gustav Brock
Gustav at cactus.dk
Fri Jun 18 07:10:47 CDT 2010
Hi Mark You can count me in. I have no "hot" project, but if I had I'm not sure if I would go for Azure or AWS, Amazon Web Services. However, I would like to learn. Recently I noticed this on how to use SSL/HTTPS with Azure: http://cloudfex.com/cs/blogs/cloud/archive/2010/02/22/cname-and-ssl-on-windows-azure-cloud-application.aspx and though a little boring, security is indeed a major topic and hold-back for potential clients. The cloud is not the answer to every task but for any application involving remote users it is worth considering when you compare to hosted or in-house servers. /gustav >>> marklbreen at gmail.com 18-06-2010 12:28 >>> Hello Guys, Last year Shamil kicked off a scrum team which about five / six people participated in. We did a project and it was fun. I think one or two people ended up with the lions share of the work but in general it was fun and the project is more or less complete / dormant now and is available on codeplex. I would love if we could do another project whereby we create a real world, demo app that runs on Azure or S3. I know almost nothing about it but I am intrigued to imagine that both my data (my Database) and my application (my IIS Server and IIS Code) are all running on thousands of different servers and yet never on any one particular machine. If I understand it right, Azure / S3 / EC is not virtual, or even clustered servers: it is a service that offer interfaces for running objects or processing and storing data. Would we like to start a project designed with the intention of learning cloud computing? I would nominate Shamil to be a Chief Scientist and CEO, I would take his lead in all things technical, and I would suggest that us mere mortals do the heavy lifting, IOW we do not end up forcing Shamil or Gustav to be pushed into quietly writing the code but we do it and we share the workload and we all learn. Shamil will guide is and assist but he will not write our homework for us. We have to learn it ourselves. If we do it, I would suggest that we take it one step at a time and for the first version, we create an application to store the just the Customers table in the cloud. When all interested parties have built that and seen it working really live, we can move on to Order and Products etc. Maybe finally, we could even put in a credit card processing element, or VAT number verification (like Gustav mentioned last year). I am also interested in exploring Amazons S3 and EC2 http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/ <http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/>http://aws.amazon.com/ <http://aws.amazon.com/>http://aws.amazon.com/s3/ <http://aws.amazon.com/s3/>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsazure/ <http://www.microsoft.com/windowsazure/>What else do we need to read up on, we actually need a program of education for the next six months. By that time we might be telling all customers "Sql Server is the old way, nowadays I only store data in the cloud" ;) BTW, I have not spoken to Shamil about this, and I hope he does not mind me nominating him, I think that his technical leadership in our group over so long qualifies him for this role (for this project anyway). Thanks to all you good friends, Mark