Max Wanadoo
max.wanadoo at gmail.com
Tue Mar 16 12:26:13 CDT 2010
True Drew! Also some of the other guys on here...amazing...First for me...I am seldom in agreement with many of the Listers. At the end of the day, a "language" is a way for me to write "code" to implement the decisions made using "my PDL examples" which are designed to implement the agreed "flow" of the "algorithm" in support of the "data structures". (My PDL guru was Dijkstra BTW) Which language I choose is determined by many factors but amongst those are "ease of use and learning" and "readability and mainenance". Within the concepts of a "general programming language" and assuming that a language does what is necessary and outputs the results in a consistent and machine-implementable way (IOW cet par) then I will opt for the one that meets those objectives. If it could be shown (to me) that one language had a definitive advantage in a meaningful way over another language then I would go for it. (Not talking about specialist language but general mainstream ones). To go for the latest "fad of the day" because it has nice curly hair with a cute kiss-curl over one eye and which can be likened to "helping hands" to comfort and embrace falls somewhat short of reasoned argument. I will stick with VBA and Powerbasic to meet my current needs and hey, guess what, short learning curve = more productivity! Max -----Original Message----- From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:52 PM To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues. Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Recent Discussion from MS on VB.Net and C# in VS 2010 Max, you and I are rarely in such close proximity of agreement, I'm probably going to make this a red letter day! ;) Drew -----Original Message----- From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 3:24 AM To: 'Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.' Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Recent Discussion from MS on VB.Net and C# in VS 2010 Yeah, but only if you are a dim wit and think that the great being in the sky is leaning down to help you. Two helping hands to deliver you into obscurity and confusion more like it. Max -----Original Message----- From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 6:38 AM To: dwaters at usinternet.com; 'Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.' Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Recent Discussion from MS on VB.Net and C# in VS 2010 Hi Dan -- You can imagine curly braces as being two open helping hands - - left - { and - right - } :) If you're only starting using VB.NET then try C# instead - you'll never look back... I have been programming fluently on VB(A) for 10+ years (and before that I have used (macro) Assemblers, FORTRAN, PL/1, COBOL, PASCAL, C/C++ etc. in many projects) - VB(A) and VB.NET look so "weird" for me now... Thank you. -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:45 AM To: 'Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.' Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Recent Discussion from MS on VB.Net and C# in VS 2010 Hi Shamil, Well - I'm just getting started with VB. I think those curly braces are weird and off putting! I do believe that VB.Net will be preferred over time - all other things being equal the easy path is the one more trodden! Dan -----Original Message----- From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 3:52 PM To: 'Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.' Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Recent Discussion from MS on VB.Net and C# in VS 2010 Hi Dan -- <<< ...because it's easier to read... >>> Well what of the following code lines is easier to read/understand/code for a (beginner) programmer?: string line = "test"; or dim line as string = "test" IMO (just IMO) defining a string variable named 'line' with initial value equal to "test" is directly translated to C#'s code line: string line = "test"; but not to a VB.NET one... And there could be found many samples like that one above, more complicated samples, which will highlight "one-to-one" correspondence between C# coding and algorithmic specifications... IMO (just IMO, I'm not trying to start a discussion here) C# is more straightforward and laconic, and is expected to become "preferred" programming language over time... Thank you :) -- Shamil <<<snip >>> _______________________________________________ dba-VB mailing list dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-VB mailing list dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. 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